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    Ok, just shrinked my first DVD-9 with DVDshrink, I choose Still Picture for the menus and extras. And when i play it back on my PC, the menus and extra lags badly, it was very painful to watch the extras. the movie seems to be fine, plays smoothly. Is this normal?
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    Umm... of COURSE it lags, you picked "still picture", which means you drop the framerate to like 0.1fps.

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  3. Beautiful Alone, the "Still Pictures" level is like taking a snapshot every second or so, and then making a slide-show of these snapshots.
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    Yes, that's what i thought. It is completely normal then, no1 gonna watch the extras anyways do to the lag, so why isn't there an option where i can just get rid of the extras completely instead of Still picture?


    What about the main movies, if i lower it to level 7-9 will it lag?
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  5. Originally Posted by Beautiful Alone
    so why isn't there an option where i can just get rid of the extras completely instead of Still picture?
    What about the main movies, if i lower it to level 7-9 will it lag?
    There is...It the ReAuthor button at the top. Just select the main movie part (usually the biggest) and let the program do the rest. If you do a search of the guides there is one that explains it a lot better..
    Never gone to 7-9 for a main movie but 6 runs OK.
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  6. Level 7-9 wouldn't lag seeing as it's still keeping the framerate. Now, as far as how it would look, I would assume that using levels that low would impact the quality quite a bit.
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    If you want a program that allows you to remove the extras but keep the menus, the only one that I know of that's easy-to-use is CloneDVD, but it ain't free.

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  8. Does DVD Toolbox not do something similar?
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  9. Originally Posted by cykosis
    I would assume that using levels that low would impact the quality quite a bit.
    i would say the source is very important determining factor. i've had to use lvl 10 (max 50%) compression on some DVD9s. this is because i wanna keep everything watchable (i.e. no stills whatsoever). the extras don't look as good, as their original bitrate is already low.

    however, for the most part, the main movies look still look great ~8-10' away from my 32" TV. it really depends on the source, as a lotta main movies are encoded at a really, really high bitrate, so compressing by that much still leaves a lot of bitrate.

    in fact, some DVD5s (no compression needed) looked horrible because the studios did a piss-poor job at the transfer and didn't digitally remaster the film...so, in the end, i end up having some DVD9s compressed by 50% actually look better than some DVD5s with no compression.
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    tell me about it

    Friday After Next (Infinifilm edition) main movie quality on a high res monitor is piss-poor

    I was able to reduce the bitrate to almost nothing and there was no difference between the copy and the original because the original looked so terrible to begin with. on my TV the original looked fine though. just affirming the point made about the quality of some original DVD material
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    I was able to reduce the bitrate to almost nothing and there was no difference between the copy and the original because the original looked so terrible to begin with.
    actually, that leads me to believe the bitrate of the original would be pretty high.

    i'm thinking that it looks piss-poor on high def is due to bad transfer and/or not digitally remastering...because even if the bitrate is high (as i assume on this movie), if the transfer process is not the best, then the highest bitrate in the world can't save it.
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    yeah, the original bitrate was high, but the picture was terrible on my PC monitor
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    Yeah, there's a big difference between bitrate and quality.

    I mean, my kid has these "Thomas the Tank Engine" DVD's that I've had to make MULTIPLE copies of now because he EATS them, for Chrissake.

    These things FILL an ENTIRE DVD-R, despite only having an hour of video each.

    And the worst part? The video transfer was TERRIBLE. It jumps around a lot, up and down, like someone was holding a camera over the original material and didn't have a steady hand.

    Then again, some Anime is like that, because that's exactly what's happening - the cels are being run under a camera and filmed, and if the camera isn't secured properly...

    Urgh.

    You can tell a GREAT transfer when you see it.

    Anything else, you can have a TON of wasted bitrate.

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