VirtualDub: How do I get this thing to capture? Any ideas?

[jthompson99]

I currently have Pinnacle Studio AV (DC10Plus) and I have been capturing vhs tapes with it. I read in the sticky at the top of this forum that VirtualDub can clean up Audio Sync issues that I have been getting with Studio 8. I installed VirtualDub, but when I try to capture I keep on getting this error:

"No Capture Driver Available".

What do I need to do to get this thing working?

Thanks for the input.

[Tommyknocker]

I get the same error message every time as well. I ignre it, and VDub goes ahead and starts working normally.

[jthompson99]

Ok, I'll try it and see what happens.

[jthompson99]

Nope, didn't work.

Went out to VirtualDump's forum and it seems a lot of people are having problems with this program. Seems as if it does not work very well.

[vhelp]

Hi jthompson99,

Memory isn't serving me well these days - - just too many things (projects)
going on

But, looks like your OS is XP. And, from what I heard, it's not possible yet,
but then, I think I recall "some" did make it work under this OS. So, I guess
it all depends on the user's "skill level".

However, you may want to to give VFW (a windows 98 video for windows
driver) a try. Hauppage seems to be the only site I know of, that still puts
out these older drivers. It may mean loosing your WDM driver support, or
not. I don't know, because I don't have XP - - I'm a Windows 98 person.

Note, vdub and avi_io are VFW aware apps only - not WDM. That's why
you need to install a VFW driver.

But, once you do have the DC10+ card working, it will work in vdub and
avi_io. and I know, because I have it working now (when I use it)

The DC10+ is a good card though. I woudn't part w/ it for anything.. though
I did part w/ it a long time ago, and that was because I didn't have the level
of skills I have today, yesterday, hehe..
And, between the DC10+ and ADVC-100, both these have proven to be
a Noise'less device for capturing !!

The above is just something to think about
-vhelp

[jthompson99]

vhelp,

Thanks for the info, it all sounds al little confusing. I think I'd rather not mess with it. If I did something wrong and screwed up my capture ability I would be pissed. I am a computer programmer, so my "Skill Level" is pretty high.......it's just that I am new to DVD/Capture stuff.


Thanks for the info though..........by the way........why are you still using Windows 98?

[vhelp]

hi jthompson99,

Thanks for the info, it all sounds al little confusing. I think I'd rather not mess with it. If I did something wrong and screwed up my capture ability I would be pissed. I am a computer programmer, so my "Skill Level" is pretty high.......it's just that I am new to DVD/Capture stuff.

Me too.. Delphi

Thanks for the info though..........by the way........why are you still using Windows 98?

I didn't think M$ needed the extra $$ for the crummy bells and whistles
I find it as fast or faster, (and less M$ hooks into your system than newer OS's)
Higher OS are too pricy for me
I'm perfectly satisfied w/ Windows 98

Stuff like that

Have a great evenig all,
-vhelp

[Craig Tucker]

Vdub works with XP no problems. XP actually comes with a VFWWDM wrapper, no need to install one. If you are having problems it is with the card rather than the OS.

[spectroelectro]

VirtualDub is notorious for having capture problems, depending on your video card and your operating system.
[1] VirtualDub uses the older VFW protocol rather than the newer WDM drivers. There exists a wrapper dll which in some cases will let a newer operating system use older VFW drivers, and programs which use the older types of drivers -- like VirtualDub. However, you must have a fast computer (at least 2 GHz p4 or Athlon XP 2000+). Also, the wrapper doesn't always work. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Issues involving your motherboard's chipset allegedly play a part.
[2] VirtualDub might work but only at a crippled limited resolution. In my case I have been able to get the wrapper to work, but it only runs at 320 x 240 resolution. Useless for my purporses, so I don't capture with VDub. I capture with another program and frameserve through VDub.
In this case ths solution is to frameserve through VirtualDub into some other application -- typically TMPGEnc. If all else fails and you can't get VirtualDub to frameserve into your MPEG ecnoder or your video editing system, try frameserving through AviSynth.
AviSynth contains most of the same filters found in VirtualDub. (In fact many VDub filters were originally written for AviSynth.)
[3] If absolutely everyting else fails, try VirtaulDubMod. This program can open AVi files or MPEG-2 and save 'em as DiVX or other types of files after processing 'em through the VirtualDub filters. You could then convert the DiVX or other type of file into MPEG-2 and burn the result to DVD. That's an ugly crufty kludge, but better than nothing.
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VirtualDub is indeed a wonderful tool. Alas, it cannot work with many types of files, and often won't capture video depending on the specifics of your comptuer & OS & video card. IMHO the biggest weakness of VDub is its inability to *SAVE* to a useful file type, like DV type 1 or DV type 2. Even if VDub can open the type of file you have, it often cannot save to that file type -- only relatively useless filetypes like Cinepak Radius 320 x 240 or Intel Indeo or D1 uncompressed. (Yeah, right, that's helpful. D1 takes up a whopping 65 gigabytes per hour!)
In particular, VirtualDub is absolutely useless for capturing from any firewire device. If you have a Canopus AVDC-100 or AVDC-50 or a DV camcorder or a Datavideo DAC-100, forget about capturing video with VirtualDub. You're just outa luck in that case.

[mgh]

Virtualdub will work with WDM drivers in XP and with WDM wrapper in 98-but do select preview mode and not overlay. My experience is opposite-I can even use custom resolutions other than those listed in Virtualdub or the driver!!
I have a small problem. The video plays only after I start capture. Virtual VCR doesn't have that problem but is limited to resolutions provided by the driver.

[Will Hay]

Vdub works perfectly for me in WinXP although I too had to install the wrapper first.
Plus, having an ATI Radeon I have to start my ATI 'video in' software first (and then close it immediately) for Vdub to work.
Shame you're having problems, it's a superb peice of software and best of all it's free.
I've tried quite a few capture packages and this is tops for me, no question.
Good luck
Will

[aklendathu]

I currently have Pinnacle Studio AV (DC10Plus) and I have been capturing vhs tapes with it. I read in the sticky at the top of this forum that VirtualDub can clean up Audio Sync issues that I have been getting with Studio 8. I installed VirtualDub, but when I try to capture I keep on getting this error:

"No Capture Driver Available".

What do I need to do to get this thing working?

Thanks for the input.

I never had serious problems with A/V sync in Studio 8 and DC10+. However, the DC10+ card is quite temperamental. From my recent experience, I suggest you make sure you have the latest Studio 8 patch (8.5.xx) and DC10+ drivers. If you need to reinstall make sure you use
the Pinnacle Registry cleanup utility. Also, put the DC10+ card in a PCI slot where it has its own, unshared IRQ.

Good luck.

[bob rock]

funny thing is that i had very simmilar problem. i have leadtek tv card (winfast 2000xp). the thing is if i was using original software for watching or capturing and then i was trying to capture with Virtualdub...exact same error message. but if i restart the pc and load virtualdub (without loading genuine software), no problems at all. try that way - it might help

[Fusmali]

Forget Virtualdub for capturing, and try VirtualVCR (freeware) the author of VirtualVCR wrote this program because of the problems he was having with VirtualDub`s capturing. I found that VirtualDub is reluctant to capture at frames sizes over 352x288, VirtualVCR does not have this restriction the only restrictions in VirtualVCR are those of the codec used to compress the captured file. It is even possible to use some filters during capture. I will added that VirtualDub is still the best POST capture video utility available the average user.

[jthompson99]

Thanks for the tips again to everyone.

I will try rebooting fresh and trying it.

I believe my card is not sharing IRQ's.

I am also going to try VirtualVCR.