I am stuck with a problem on DVD to MPEG and back

[arcorob]

Here is my problem. I have already authored and burned a wedding video (3 files, music video, wedding and reception) to DVD. I have since erased the source MPEGS.

I now need to RIP the DVD, add some pictures (20) to to thestart of the wedding vid and reauthor.

How do I do this ? And still maintain the original production that is...THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

[andkiich]

There are guides to the left that outline what you want, I'd check there first.

[BKL]

I have used Ulead DVD MovieFactory 2 to rip the vob files to my hard drive as mpeg2 files. Good luck!

[arcorob]

I know about the guides and you know none of them cover this situation. I did search on VOB to MPEG and I gather my best two options are VOBEDIT or Virtualdub.

But here is the real issue. If I convert the VOB's to elementary streams I will have pieces and parts. 5 VOB's creating the 3 files I need.

So for example, VOB 1 contains the 6 minute music video. But it also contains part of the wedding. VOB 2 contains the wedding spanning to the beginning of VOB 3. VOB 3 through 5 have the reception.

I will have to create 5 elemetary stream m2v/wav groups, edit to the start of the wedding and split. So on for each section. Merge, and finally after much prayer, have three MPEG 2 files (hopefully in sync) . I can then take the wedding vid, add the pcitures to the front and here is the real rub, reencode. And hope I dont lose quality which I will because when you rencode an MPEG 2 to MPEG 2 its lossy.

I think I would have preferred the answer "You cant do that"...LOL

Because now that its discussed I will be forced to try it and I know it will come out :
1) Either out of sync
2) Poor quality picture

Sigh.......Thanks

[pijetro]

I'm not familiar with Vobedit, or any of the other DVD ripping, and editing, but here's a shot in the dark.

Extract the vob's through UleadMF2 (as stated earlier), into .mpg's. Go to your Dos prompt, and type copy /b vid1.mpg+vid2.mpg+vid3.mpg vidfinal.mpg. You can also drag and drop these files into the command prompt.

After you've created the final .mpg, try multiplexing (not simple multiplexing) the video with Tmpgenc.
Hopefully with your fingers crossed, you can have your final .MPG with the correct headers and sync.

I don't know if the authouring softwares allow for retrimming your videos, but if you still want them in three separate files, then demultiplex your vidfinal.mpg stream and within BBmpeg, remultiplex them together to the correct times, (ie 0 seconds to 12000 seconds, 12001seconds to 15252seconds and so on).

Make your slideshow, and add these three .mpg's for final authouring.

It's long winded, and a shot in the dark. If you've got some time to kill, then give it a try.

[DJRumpy]

The easiest way is to simply copy the VOB's to your hard drive (their not encrypted), and use VOBMerge, or VOBEdit to combine them into one big M2V, and audio file. You can then mux them together, and join in any new MPEG material you may create using something like TMPGenc. This way do not have to reencode, and take no quality loss.

The new material to add will have to be in the same resoultion, framerate, etc. You can join them using TMPGenc, and the FILE | MPEG Tools option.

As an alternative, you do not have to join them. If your authoring software accepts multiple MPEG,s (as chapters for instance), it may be a simple matter of just dropping the new content, in with your old, into your DVD Authoring software to produce the new dvd.

[mkelley]

You can rip to just one VOB (for example, DVDDecrypter will do this -- just turn off the split VOB option). At that point you can convert it to elementary streams so you have one long video.

Now use one of the MPEG editing tools to cut your movie -- I am told (although I don't believe it myself) they are both easy and powerful, and lose little quality. Someone here (jarvis?) recommended M2-EDIT Pro as one such.

I guess this is a good learning experience (in the business we *never* delete our source files: I have wedding footage shot 20 years ago still stored. And, yes, every now and then we have people requesting the old stuff, so it does come in handy).

[DJRumpy]

Good point. If you have the DVD, then it's easier to simply rip them off into one file with DVD Decryptor.

Anything besides splitting, joining, or changing the flags on the mpeg will result in a loss of quality (re-encode). You should be able to do this without re-encoding, but depending on your authoring software, you might have to look at other authoring packages.

[arcorob]

Okay, now I am shot.

First off, I didnt know DVDMF II had a VOB converter

Second, If I use DVDDecryptor, it will give me the VOBs and files, but not one stream....unless you mean different mode setting. I have used smart ripper like that before , getting the stream out as M2V and WAV

So no DVD2 AVI...wait , I am trying too read too much, Need pc in front of me..LOL

As to deleting weddings....I keep a copy MASTER of the DVD. But not in MPEG format. Sigh. Maybe I might just do that instead.

I will get back to all later.Need to work this out.........

[arcorob]

hmmm...If I copy my vobs, use VOBEDIT, create one big file, M2V and WAV merge, then I would have to split the files. 3 Files. I would then add material. Hmmmmmmm..but when I add the material .......hmmm...if it is different in spec (it will be) .....because I dont remember what I used on the wedding part....4300 CBR, 5000 CBR......Hmmm

[mkelley]

Okay, now I am shot.

First off, I didnt know DVDMF II had a VOB converter

Second, If I use DVDDecryptor, it will give me the VOBs and files, but not one stream....unless you mean different mode setting..

No, it's not a different mode (well, it is the FILE mode, just press F) -- you just go to the split VOB settings and tell it to make it one big VOB.

At that point I'm guessing the MPEG editor will allow you to work with this, but since I never edit MPEG I can't tell you.

As to original -- I meant original footage. I'm assuming you videotaped this thing. Maybe you don't relish recapturing/editing/etc, but I usually save my batch capture settings along with the Premiere project, so redoing it from scratch is truly trivial.

[arcorob]

Hi ...and thanks again.

Usually what I do is capture all tapes in premier (just capture) so I wind up with about 80 gig of data.

I then use Vegas to edit, create, etc.

When I finally have my MPEGS I use DVDMFII to create the DVD.

At that point, I create MPEGS out of each RAW capture so I can give them the rAW stuf, but that is unedited.

When all is done I erase the originals from the hard drives.

Problem is the rare occassion where they dont want a copy, they want material added. I dont have the raw EDITTED mpegs.

What I intend now in the future is to save the project 9MPEGS, background picture, etc) to a DVD for my copy. That way I can always recreate a copy of the dvd or edit the material....sigh

I'll psot back how it all worked...

[arcorob]

I said I would post back on how things worked ...happy to report quite well. Here is the NICE feature.

Went into DVD MOvie Factory II. Inserted my source DVD (with the wedding) and Clicked on EDIT disk.

It read the whole disk and found 3 Video's (5 VOb's) as it should.

I could not figure out how to get it to store them but I know what it uses for work space (you select where under prefences all the time) so...I went there and sure enough, I had Video 1 , 2 and 3 in MPEG format.

I copied them to another folder and exited DVDMFII

I built my picture slide show (2 minutes long) rendered to MPEG with the same specs as the wedding (created AVI in vegas and then used TMPGenc as I did the original for compatibility) .

Now I used TMPGenc MPEG Tools to merge.

The files merged fine.

Back to Ulead DVDMFII to create the DVD again and all was well.

Thank you to ALL who helped.

What is really neat is that DVDMF II will actually reverse engineer like that.

[ochsfamily]

I have been reading these posts on going from vob back to mpeg. I found it very hepful. I have ulead dvd mf2.. and did as you suggested.. edit so it will pull the video.. which it did and its in mpeg format.

The problem I ran into was... I got a popup that said ulead doesn’t support ac3 audio files? I can see the video.. but no sound. I got the same thing before when I split the vob into the mv2 and ac3..

this seems to be a difficult topic.
Do you have suggestions on this?
Thank you for your time..

[FOO]

Vobedit has an option to rip an entire VOB file set.
I think it puts it all into one file.
You have to do the video and audio separately
and then remux.
If MF2 won't do AC3 you might try that

[ochsfamily]

Found this in a past posting about ulead mf2

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152572&highlight=vob+mpeg