Place Your Bets DVD-Lab or TMPEGEnc DVD.

[Suprnaut]

What do you think will happen first?

DVD-Lab (great program btw.) will add the ability to add multiple VTS sectors.

OR

TMPEGEnc DVD will have a real customizable menu system. (They don't even let you move around their premade buttons!)

(I'm waiting for either to happen so I can finally create a multi-aspect DVD with a nice custom menu.)

[steptoe]

Or, even better, allowing the mixing of NTSC and PAL on one DVD

Come on, how hard is it to add a switch to make a non-standard DVD

[rhegedus]

I think all bets should be off until we see Adobe Encore DVD

[Suprnaut]

I think all bets should be off until we see Adobe Encore DVD

Yeah I sure hope its more intuative than Scenarist.

[housepig]

I think all bets should be off until we see Adobe Encore DVD

I think Encore is aimed at a different market segment from two sub-$100 software applications...

I'm pretty happy with DVD Lab at $80, for me to drop >$400 for Encore, it better include some oral sex along with the disc and manual...

[rhegedus]

Where did you get the price info from?

[tumbar]

I'm pretty happy with DVD Lab at $80, for me to drop >$400 for Encore, it better include some oral sex along with the disc and manual...

...might just be me but this would make it difficult for me to concentrate on the manual

[housepig]

Rob -

there was another thread on Encore floating around, and there were a couple of different price estimates thrown around. I don't know if Adobe has a price quote up on thier site yet, but for some reason $499 sticks in my head.

Even if that's not it, it's an educated guess - consider the prices for Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, After Effects, etc...

And Tumbar - oral sex first, manual second.

[rhegedus]

Yeah - saw the thread a few days ago, but I've been unable to get a price for it. Your guess seems pretty accurate - I hope they have a trial version for that amount of $.

Off thread: I see Minneapolis is getting some decent thunder storms at present. Saw some fantastic ones whilst in Stillwater last year - I only wish I had my camcorder!

[mkelley]

From the Adobe press release:

Pricing and Availability
Adobe Encore DVD for Windows XP is expected to ship in the United States in the third quarter of 2003. The estimated street price is US $549. Adobe Encore DVD will be available for purchase from Adobe.com, retail outlets and Adobe certified resellers. Information regarding international pricing and support policies is available on the Adobe website at www.adobe.com .

Since street price is estimated at $549, look for a MSRP of around $600. As with Housepig, I expect some specific kind of benefit above and beyond what I can do with DVDLab (it doesn't necessarily have to involve physical pleasure, but it sure as hell needs to be better than just a 2.0 AC3 encoder, which is all they are promising with this version).

For a long time I was excited about Encore -- now I have DVDLab... <g>.

[housepig]

mkelly -

I'm sure that Encore will have some nice geegaws that DVD Lab doesn't, or won't. I'm also sure that it will continue Adobe's track record of clean, easy to use and deep applications.

However, when it comes down to where the Pope shits in the woods, I can't think of any features I really need that I can't get from DVD Lab. The only thing I'm waiting for in DVD Lab is multiple audio tracks, and I don't even NEED it, it would just spice up a couple of future projects. So I don't think I'll be plopping down an extra $500 for the Adobe imprinteur on my discs...

Of course, I reserve the right to do a 180 after I see the software 8)

And Rob - yeah, we're getting hammered. The real drag is that it's muggy as all hell, and the storms aren't helping much. This tropical crap is one of the reasons I left Virginia...

[phatslug]

Hmm.. never noticed the DVDLab, only one VTS, deal. Are there drawbacks to having only one sector? Ive made projects with multiple videos and it seems to work fine despite getting crammed into VTS_01.

Or perhaps I misunderstand...?

[mkelley]

mkelly -
I'm sure that Encore will have some nice geegaws that DVD Lab doesn't, or won't. I'm also sure that it will continue Adobe's track record of clean, easy to use and deep applications.

I'm really an Adobe whore -- if I had to pick just one software company to the exclusion of everything else I own, they'd be the ones. Illustrator alone is my favorite toy for a rainy afternoon, and I don't know where I'd be without Photoshop.

But this price point for no 5.1 Dolby really stinks -- I know they are looking at the other guys in that market, but I just don't see what they might have that's all that great, particularly now that we know how much value can be gotten for so less.

For some reason this reminds me of the old joke where the guy in the $50,000 H2 pulls up alongside the guy in the $12,000 Yugo and says "What is that awful rattling I hear down there?" and the little guy in the Yugo says "Oh, that must be the $38,000 change I have jangling in my pocket."