Some DVD-R media suggestions for backing up DVD's

[Network Enforcer]

I have used several in the past but have gotten some mixed results. I have used Princo, Ritek, TDK, and Verbatim. My dilemma is Princo's are wearing out my lasers in my standalone DVD players, Ritek (G03) is no where to be found (1x general purpose) and TDK and Verbatim are too expensive to buy in bulk.

Has anyone else used other brands that have given positive results as Ritek and Verbatim?

How are Samsung, Optodisk, DupEz, Taiyo Yuden, or any other DVD-r media compare?

Thanks

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[Bob W]

I have used both Philips and the CompUSA house brand with good results.

[cambo]

Serious question...

How can Princo (or any DVD) wear out a laser? Thought there was no contact during play.

Reason I'm asking is some of my discs show a lot of macro blocks, but play perfectly on other players.

Davros[/quote]

[disturbed1]

Taiyo are the same price as Verbatim and TDK (give or take a dime), so those would be out of the question too.

Since your profile says you have an A05, why not try out the DupEz 4x for $1.20 each? They are the same thing as the Accu 4x, made by Lead Data corp. I've burnt 50 of 'em, and so far so good.

Rima has a 4x sample pack that includes Ritek, Optodisc, DupEz, and Princo.

Meritline also has a 4x sample pack. They have a new 4x media, PrimeDisc, made by Gigastorage, which I'm testing now. Those are only $1.30 each.

The Samsung BeAll 1x is O.K. not as good as Ritek G03 (IMO), but as close as one can get. Only 1x burning on an A05 for the same price as most 4x discs.

The BeAll 4x is great media, but $2.50 each.

[kenmo]

Serious question...

How can Princo (or any DVD) wear out a laser? Thought there was no contact during play.

Reason I'm asking is some of my discs show a lot of macro blocks, but play perfectly on other players.

Davros

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I would like to know the same thing as I find it ahrd to beleive....

[Barnabas]

My dilemma is Princo's are wearing out my lazers in my standalone DVD players,

There is NO way that the Princo's could be wearing out his laser, that's the most stupid thing I ever heard of. That's just an ignorant post from another newbie who doesn't know what he is talking about.

[anosis]

Serious question...

How can Princo (or any DVD) wear out a laser? Thought there was no contact during play.

Reason I'm asking is some of my discs show a lot of macro blocks, but play perfectly on other players.

Davros

The only thing that comes in mind is reflectivity. Suppose the reflectivity of the princo's is not as good as of other media the laser would have to increase the intensity to be able to read, which in turn heats up everything -> wear is higher. This is not based on factual notes, rather on my technical background. So please, do not flame me for a possible scenario.

[poopyhead]

you guys may wanna check out the dvd player compatibility section of this website. it'll tell you other ppl's experiences which dvd-r media in a perticular player.

i use cheap princo's (about $81/100 tax included) i have the pioneer A04 hacked 2x firmware. the burner seems to be able to burn these princos at 2x (rated 1x though), so i switched back to 1x just to be safe. i've had no problems playing them in my dvd-rom (16x artec) or my pioneer dv333.

certain dvd players are more picky about dvd media than others. i personally know that pioneer dv333 and its sucessors are not nearly as picky as others, so i made sure i tested my dvd-rs on other ppl's dvd player, and they all seem to work fine.

technically, i don't think princo's can really wear out the laser, at least not more so than any other brand, but i guess the brand of dvd player you have is an important factor. the cheap apex may have weaker lasers that cannot play cheapo princo's as well. i personally trusted pioneer's brand after reading all the reviews about the twin laser pickup.

[LanEvo7]

Try the DupEZ 1x media if you feel that the 4x is somewhat expensive. I use those in my A05 with the 2x hacked firmware and have gotten a 100% success rate with them. I haven't found a player that isn't compatible with it yet. I've never tried the 4x, but it seems people are getting good results from them.

If you want to use Optodisc, buy a sample pack first. They seem to burn fine, but its very picky about what it plays on. It would play on my pioneer dvd rom and my apex player, but wouldn't play on a friends hp dvd rom and my ge player.

[Network Enforcer]

My dilemma is Princo's are wearing out my lazers in my standalone DVD players,

There is NO way that the Princo's could be wearing out his laser, that's the most stupid thing I ever heard of. That's just an ignorant post from another newbie who doesn't know what he is talking about.

I asked a question about media that would be comparable. I didn't ask to debate whether my experiance with Princo media is universal. So in loo of the question, you obviously don't have an intelligent answer. Don't waste people's time by increasing the number of posts to consider yourself an expert. Moron

[Network Enforcer]

Try the DupEZ 1x media if you feel that the 4x is somewhat expensive. I use those in my A05 with the 2x hacked firmware and have gotten a 100% success rate with them. I haven't found a player that isn't compatible with it yet. I've never tried the 4x, but it seems people are getting good results from them.

If you want to use Optodisc, buy a sample pack first. They seem to burn fine, but its very picky about what it plays on. It would play on my pioneer dvd rom and my apex player, but wouldn't play on a friends hp dvd rom and my ge player.

Thanks for the info. I'll give the DupEZ 1x a try.

[Network Enforcer]

Taiyo are the same price as Verbatim and TDK (give or take a dime), so those would be out of the question too.

Since your profile says you have an A05, why not try out the DupEz 4x for $1.20 each? They are the same thing as the Accu 4x, made by Lead Data corp. I've burnt 50 of 'em, and so far so good.

Rima has a 4x sample pack that includes Ritek, Optodisc, DupEz, and Princo.

Meritline also has a 4x sample pack. They have a new 4x media, PrimeDisc, made by Gigastorage, which I'm testing now. Those are only $1.30 each.

The Samsung BeAll 1x is O.K. not as good as Ritek G03 (IMO), but as close as one can get. Only 1x burning on an A05 for the same price as most 4x discs.

The BeAll 4x is great media, but $2.50 each.

Thanks for the info, I'll look further into these.

[overloaded_ide]

Network Enforcer,
Is an expert moron anything like an Oxey Moron?

Pardone my spellin please.


I been using lead data with good results myself so far, but then I use princos without problems also.

How long does it take a princo to wear out a laser? I don't see how it could do that, but since i am using the princo's I will keep an eye on my players, or was it burners?

[Network Enforcer]

Network Enforcer,
Is an expert moron anything like an Oxey Moron?

Pardone my spellin please.


I been using lead data with good results myself so far, but then I use princos without problems also.

How long does it take a princo to wear out a laser? I don't see how it could do that, but since i am using the princo's I will keep an eye on my players, or was it burners?

The "Moron" was intended for the party with no useful information. As for even thinking that I am an expert in any manner was not a question. But to answer that I am not, otherwise I wouldn't be asking questions in this forum.

I have only burned about 100 or so DVD backups with all of them being movies with both Princo 1x media and Ritek G03 1x media.

As for wearing out the laser, I have read on numerous accounts that cheaper media has been notorious for making lasers in playback devices work harder to read the reflective surface thus wearing out the laser over time.

I didn't believe it myself till I person that I ran into that burns a rediculous amount of DVD-r's told me himself that I should probably go with a better quality DVD-r media since he only noticed that the Princo media played normal again with no skipping only after getting the same one from the warrenty he had on it.

I only noticed that there were problems when I played a DVD-r backup (Princo) on my Memorex MDV 450, which it can play DVD's, CD-r's, cdrw's, Mp3's etc.... to which it skipped several times in the movie. I then turned around and played it in my PS2 with no problems.

I know that was comparing apples and oranges and that Memorex isn't the best player in the world, but this was only happening ever since I got into burning DVD's using Princo's. I haven't seen any skipping from the Ritek's that I use so maybe it's a coincidence. Then again maybe not.

[poopyhead]

I know that was comparing apples and oranges and that Memorex isn't the best player in the world, but this was only happening ever since I got into burning DVD's using Princo's. I haven't seen any skipping from the Ritek's that I use so maybe it's a coincidence. Then again maybe not.

i guess this all depends to a large extent on what your dvd player can handle. some are extremely picky about media, formats, etc....while some will play literally shit.

personally, i don't think cheap media, whether it be CDs or DVDs have that large of an effect on dvd players, but i guess if you have a dvd player with a laser that's succeptible to cheaper media, then i guess you have to get the more expensive ones. i specially got the pioneer dv333 because of it's versitility in playing all sorts of formats and media. it's dual laser pickup prolly helps in reading cheapo media, but i'm sure most dvd players prolly won't be affected very much. i've been playing cheap media on my pioneer for over 2 years and it still works great.

btw, prolly burning cheap media at slow speeds (1x) may help the DVD-R to be more readable (deeper grooves, sharper pits???)

[LanEvo7]

What I would do if I were you is go to Rima and buy both their 1x and 4x sample packs. Yes, you'd probably end up throwing the Princos away(I did, one failed on me during burning, the other had errors), but at least you would know which disc is best for you before you spend a chunk of money on it for bulk.