EVERY PERSON WITH PIONEER READ

[JBlaze]

Ok I got a pioneer 104, I tried to install dameon tools and it crashed my pc. I reboot, and now my 104 wont burn cds,dvds,or read them. I'm using the 1.41 firmware, is there away to downgrade from it? What is wrong with my burner? I have probably had it for a year, and burnt around 75-100 dvds with it. Someone please help. I beg you.

[Airr]

You don't say what you're using to burn with, but whatever it is, make sure that the pioneer is the default burning drive.

Daemon tools creates a virtual drive, which your program(s) might be pointing to...


AIR.

[Faustus]

is the Pioneer internal or external? If internal is it a master on a chain by itself or a slave?

[Coopervid]

You might have caught a virus depending where you got the Daemon Tools from. Check this first with a virus scanner. Then check the drive in another computer to identify if the drive or your hardware / software is causing the problem.

[jdizzy40]

Before you start trying to help someone out please read and re-read his post. He stated he has burned several DVD's already with this drive before installing some software. So it likely to have nothing to do with his drive being on master and slave. Furthermore if you knew your hardware, you would know his drive was internal not external. Lets not waste people's time "Trying to help", when we don't even know the basics of his situation.

[Faustus]

Actually man even if he burned several disk ok it could make a difference where it at on the chain. And if its obvious if its internal or external I missed something major, because my 105 is external, he could have made it external himself. What I'm asking for is more information, I've been doing hardware support for 7 years, I know what info is helpful and what is not.

From what he said so far I would first suggest he reinstall ASPI, but failing that he may need to roll back windows if possible, but its just rough guesses without details. Details is where it at.

[jdizzy40]

Texas? Figures

[overloaded_ide]

Daemon tools creates a virtual drive

Yea, check all your settings to see if the fake drive became a default drive somehow.
When I installed it on my 2k pro system I had a problem with several things wanting to use the fake drive. The tool worked good for me otherwise though.

Also check your devices in windows and see if they are all showing correctly. I recently had something screw up my ide drivers and I ended up with drives up to like q: showing in 2k and I only had 4 drives installed! Although the Hard Drives were working fine, ( still c: and d: ) both my burners did not work in any program even as readers, because they got changed to like L: and k:, all my programs looked for drives e and f and those drives then did not exist. Don't think Daemon did that, but if something is floating around you might have got it.

[JBlaze]

OK, my drive is internal, secondary master, and my default recorder is not the virtual one, I will rollback windows when i come home, please help me

[Faustus]

Ok I have a few more questions, you said it will not burn, so I'm assuming that Windows sees the drive correct? Also does your burn software see it? And if so does it give an error when you try to burn or just not do anything?

If you feel comfortable doing so I'd suggest unplugging the drive, starting, shutting down, then replugging in its IDE and Power Cables. Not much help if its actually seeing the thing but worth a try.

If that doesn't do it you may just want to backup your files and reinstall the OS from scratch its a pain but rather that then assume a good burner is bad.

[MikeV]

jdizzy40 wrote

Texas? Figures

What do you mean by this??

I have a few more years(31) in computer hardware and software support than flaystus has. I read the question and had the same questions to ask as he did. It is always good to give as much information about your problem as possible.

jdizzy40 also wrote

Before you start trying to help someone out please read and re-read his post. He stated he has burned several DVD's already with this drive before installing some software. So it likely to have nothing to do with his drive being on master and slave. Furthermore if you knew your hardware, you would know his drive was internal not external. Lets not waste people's time "Trying to help", when we don't even know the basics of his situation.

Nice slamming, but where have you tried to give JBlaze an answer to his question?

JBlaze
Have you recently updated the BIOS of the 104 drive? If you did was it a Pioneer version or one of the hacked versions out on the web?
If it is one of the hacked versions try to write the original Pioneer version back to the drive. The BIOS software should still be out on Pioneers site.

[Gazorgan]

Been there, done that.

Daemon tools is remarkable, but has a few bugs (unmount a bin/cue to delete it after verifying, but you can't delete the folder it's in until you re-mount something else).

My problem with Daemon tools revolved around the virtual drive replacing my physical drive. That's an easy fix, just re-define your drive letters. Anotehr problem that crops ups is sometimes you have a virtual drive 'with the same letter' as your physical drive. Again, jsut re-define your drive letters.

Some software (games for me) doesn't work if the disk isn't in the 'first' drive. I have CDRW, DVD, and 2 Daemon drives; My games only work if the disk is in the first drive. So when I want to use bin/cues of the game CD's (keeps the kids from scratching the play disks) I have to shuffle drive leters.

Another problem can be your burning software is using the wrong drive. Daemon tools can emulate a DVDR drive, so your burning software may be looking at a virtual drive instead of the real on, double check that.

[JBlaze]

First of all daemon tools did not install on my computer, it just crashed after installing then made a virtual drive, I cant configure those virtual drives and dont know how to make them go away. I have the legit pioneer 1.41 firmware. I have not recently updated the firmware to anything more than the legit one. Windows correctly sees the drive and so does all my burning apps. When I try to burn or read a disc it tells me that the drive is not ready.I tried taking out the ide cable and power cable, booted up and then shut down. Plugged it back in and the problem was still there. This morning I tried a universal pioneer downgrade, it didn't downgrade but now I can burn regular cds.

I know this is a lot of info together but please try to stick with me. After school is over(im there) I am going to do a windows restore, if that doesnt work then I'm going to restore my hd from an image a month old. So I loose a lot of data. Any other suggestions? Thanks for all your help so far, you guys are amazing. Please keep helping me. Thanks again.

[VinnySem]

Texas? Figures

Furthermore if you knew your hardware, you would know his drive was internal not external.

Exactly what this forum needs, another jerkoff.

First of all, ever hear of an external IDE drive enclosure kit? You know, one of those kits that you can buy for $50-$100 that have USB or FireWire ports, and you can install a hard drive or CD/DVD drive in them and use it externally? Or have you been living in a cave in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan?

Anyway, back to the problem at hand, I also have an Pioneer A04, and I also have the Daemon Tools installed on the same system, and I have no conflict. But I am not running the 1.41 firmware, I have the 1.40 2x4All hacked firmware. Try reinstalling your ASPI drivers, and follow other users suggestion of making sure the new virtual drive has not been made the default. I don't have the link here on my work PC, but there is a website that has older versions of the firmware and a hack to the exe that flashes it to the EEPROM in the drive, allowing you to install an older version of the firmware. The EXE that Pioneer distributes checks the existing firmware version when you try to flash, and exits if the existing firmware is newer than the what you are trying to flash to. I suggest going back to the last working version of the firmware you had, and reinstall the D-Tools and your ASPI drivers.

[Two2Tango]

Version 1.41 is for Version 2.0 DVD-R media. If you are using older DVD-R Version 1.1 media it may no longer be recognised by the writer or writing software being used.

[JBlaze]

Ok sweet thanks guys this is amazing, I came home and did a system restore, everything is back up working. Thanks for everyones help.

Also, dont flame the flamer it just gets into a flame post.

Jdizzy- I definetly understand y u flamed its straight, i hate when people ask dumb questions, but its ok here cuz they are helping me. lol

anyways thanks to everyone here for their input im so fu*ckin happy.

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