just got a dvd-burner and

[frozenQ]

im curious about 1 thing...

is it possible to burn music-cd's on empty dvd-discs so you can put like 100 songs or so and play it on any cd-player such as cd-players in cars etc etc? cant find any option about it on nero...

if so, what prog out there does that?

TY

frozenQ

[sapiendut]

your question itself is flawed.

How are you supposed to play DVD (regardless what's in there) using CD player? It's called CD PLAYER because it plays CD. The thing that plays DVD is called..... ::drumroll:: ..... DVD PLAYER!!!!!!

[K2]

a DVD player can play a CD or DVD.
a CD player can only play a cd.

come on now

[pbemer]

buellar? buellar? anyone?? :P CD players, play cds only. DVD players can play either or. I know what your thinking, "Man, I got these huge DVDR's I can stuff a ton of songs on it and play it on my cd player." Sorry pal, it just doesn't work that way..

[Will Hay]

Sounds the same kinda dumb thing my pal at work did.
Literally:
Put a dvd in his rom drive and a 700mb blank cdr in his burner and hit copy (CloneCD).
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will

[sapiendut]

the best thing is when a customer called up and stated that he's pissed off because (put a CD/DVD burner company name here) is gypping everybody.

When I asked why, the customer told me that the difference between DVD-R and CD-R is just firmware and he refuses to pay the $200 difference in price.



I told him that if they can actually do that, they would do it and actually charge $200 less.

[frozenQ]

i asked a question, maybe stupid or not,, was just awaiting for an simple answer boys,, not any arrogant ones kiddies

[Karate Media]

I think the problem is that you've been visiting this site since at least six or seven months, which would lead people to believe that you've actually searched the site a bit since November...

You asked a question that has been asked a number of times just recently (no I will not search for you): "Can I burn a DVD like a music CDR?" This questions has previously been answered in any number of ways (from "no, a dvd is not red-book standard for music" to "some DVD standalones will play MP3s burned onto DVDs" to "I have a guide to putting AC3 audio tracks on DVD") that all approached the question from one angle or another. A simple search would have given you this information.

But on top of that, you asked about playing a DVD in a CD player. That's just fair game..that's a gimme...Come on, it's like asking if you could make a DVD that could play in your VCR. Poor, accidental phrasing on your part? Sure, but I haven't seen a forum on the Internet where people didn't jump on a question like that.

Could they have been nicer in telling you , "No, you cannot do that"? Sure. And you could've search the forum, or google, or anywhere before posting your question, or at least given serious thought about asking if a DVD could be played in a CD player. But you didn't. And they didn't.

And that's the wonder of the Internet...guaranteed flaming in one hour or less...

[burnmaster2003]

You can copy 100's of music files to DVDs, but you can only play them on your computer. Using NERO, just copy the music files to the DVD and use MS Media Player to listen to them.

[pbemer]

Karate Media - I think they should just sticky your post out in the newbie forum! It couldn't get any better than what you wrote.

Problem is, I don't think the newbs read the sticky's first..

[Will Hay]

i asked a question, maybe stupid or not,, was just awaiting for an simple answer boys,, not any arrogant ones kiddies

Hmmm, I think you need to lighten up a little, and be thankful no-one called you an idiot.
As my very knowledgeable friend 'Karate Media' quite rightly pointed out, you should have searched first, but you choose to jump in.
Welcome to the deep end young man.
Now that's arrogant
Will Hay

[Conquest10]

Hmmm, I think you need to lighten up a little, and be thankful no-one called you an idiot.

i did that when someone asked about burning a dvd with a cd-rw drive and my post got deleted.

[Syro]

i asked a question, maybe stupid or not,, was just awaiting for an simple answer boys,, not any arrogant ones kiddies

don't let these folks get to you. without you there's no them. they need questions like yours to feel better about themselves. it's sad really.

[spmiz12]

I too have noticed many of the response's that I have got to questions have helped however some have posted smart answers back. It is a shame that such a good forum have people that feel the only satisfaction they get out of life is to be smart with their response's.... I guess I don't get this whole forum because I thought it was here to help each other instead of responding negatively to someone's questions...... I guess that the so-called experts never had to start from the beginning learning instead they were born with all the answers........And hell, forget the newbie forum since they always beat-up on those asking what I would call newbie questions..... I think the forum could be better if the buttheads would just REALIZE what it's here for........TOO HELP!!!!!!!!!

[Conquest10]

I too have noticed many of the response's that I have got to questions have helped however some have posted smart answers back. It is a shame that such a good forum have people that feel the only satisfaction they get out of life is to be smart with their response's.... I guess I don't get this whole forum because I thought it was here to help each other instead of responding negatively to someone's questions...... I guess that the so-called experts never had to start from the beginning learning instead they were born with all the answers........And hell, forget the newbie forum since they always beat-up on those asking what I would call newbie questions..... I think the forum could be better if the buttheads would just REALIZE what it's here for........TOO HELP!!!!!!!!!

hey newbie, we did not start off with ALL the answers. we read a little. that's what that thing on the left is for. if a person has a real question, then someone shouldn't need to respond with a smart answer. you newbies need a little more patience and stop needing to be spoon fed all the time. will it kill you to read a few guides?

[Conquest10]

i just noticed you're the same person who asked for the breakdown of what is normally included in the saved directories of encoded video files and didn't know you had to author a dvd before burning.

[spmiz12]

I did ask the question of what makes up a dvd, however it was to examine my HD contents so that when I did burn it I would not of ended up with a coaster...... You see alot of responder's are quick to criticize without realizing that other's may have questions or approach's to things that they didn't think of.......

But the GOOD responder's make this forum well worth it!!!!!!!!!!!

[Karate Media]

I think the forum could be better if the buttheads would just REALIZE what it's here for........TOO HELP!!!!!!!!!

No, you see, the whole SITE is here to help you. There's guides, how-to's, what is's, hardware profiles, etc...as well as this forum. Heading straight to the forum to ask a question is easy, but it's a rube's way out.

A lot of effort has gone into the information available on this website. A lot of donated effort, for the most part. When you ignore the wealth of knowledge available to the left, you project a lack of respect for the time and effort that went into compiling that information.

If you're a newbie, consider it like visiting a foreign country: you'd take the time to at least learn the basics of the language before going, wouldn't you? You'd buy a map and a translation dictionary and use these references, wouldn't you? I sure hope you wouldn't just show up and start expecting people to understand your language and showing you how to get everywhere, with no effort on your part, because that would be incredibly rude.

I try to be as helpful as possible, because I'm still new to all of this in many ways. But when I see questions that have answers readily available on this site (or even within the first page of hits in a google search), it does bother me. Each redundant questions takes away time, effort, and disk space from this web site. Each of those things add up over time. I understand that some searches don't always give up the information you are looking for, even if it does exist. But it is often obvious who took the time to at least try to find an answer and who didn't -- say, because they asked if a DVD could be played in a CD player. Could the replying posters have tried to be kinder? Sure, but if you're not going to put in a little effort on your part, why should anyone else?

This is not a library. There is nobody at the reference desk being paid to show you how to use the card catalogue. Everyone here is donating their time, so please excuse them if they call bullshit on lazy surfers who don't want to take the time to search for their answer. Searching the internet isn't a difficult task - if you can open a TV Guide or dial Information, then you can handle a web search. And if you can't...well, maybe learning how to author a DVD is the least of your problems.

Many of the people on this site, especially the long-timers, are most likely here because they want to learn and they want to teach. But people who love to learn respect the learning process, and people who love to teach don't like students who simply want to be spoon-fed the answers. If you were taking a class and everybody kept asking questions that were answered in the textbook (not to mention the required reading), you'd all piss off the professor pretty quickly.

If you want a guide to this world that doesn't talk back to you, then go buy a book about DVDs. If you want to take advantage of the free information available here, then show some respect for the effort (and money -- it may not be your money, but it sure is Baldrick's) put into this site. One thing that is repeatedly asked of newbies is to read the guides and search the site before posting a question. By not following the rules, you are being rude.

Whew...this is long even by my self-absorbed, long-winded standards. Thanks for letting me vent.

[Conquest10]

that was beautiful, Karate Media.

[vitualis]

Very nice Karate Media...

Yes, we were all new once and for us "long-timers" we had to work things out when there were no "experts". The reason this site still exists is because there are a lot of members willing to donate their time, knowledge and experience (and money) into HELPING others and at the same time, learn a few new things themselves.

The forum board is only ONE of many resources on this site. There are guides, articles, how tos, as well as the huge resource of past threads and post on the forum, all of which can be search.

This site is free which means that no one here is paid to hold your hand and give you your answers on a silver platter. If you get something useful from this site, then you should be happy that you are getting something for nothing. You can understand that when a beginner not only asks a question that is so simple that it is obvious that they had not bothered to do any research, but also expresses an attitude that they "deserved" to be helped "here and now" that it encourages a degree of annoyance in the other members.

Still, this forum is probably one of the most "patient" towards beginners than any other and I encourage everyone to be tolerant.

For the beginners, read and learn. If you post a question that is well thought out and meaningful, you will definitely not be flamed and more than likely someone will try to help you with your problem.

@ frozenQ: just take it easy. Rather than assigning fault to everyone else, consider perhaps that the calibre and content of your question may have illicited that response?

Regards.

[pbemer]

Uh- Ok, now can I play a DVD in my CD player????

frozenq - that's a joke pal!! Just clerifying..

Oh yeah, I'm a newb too

[tjtoed]

This is one of the most hilarious threads I have ever read on this site...

Gotta love the newbs (me included) for providing comic relief.


With the title of this thread "just got a dvd-burner and" it was obvious what was coming.

[Redd]

Sounds the same kinda dumb thing my pal at work did.
Literally:
Put a dvd in his rom drive and a 700mb blank cdr in his burner and hit copy (CloneCD).
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will

That's good. I've been using CloneCD with ClonyXXL for some time now. I'm surprised your friend was even able to get that far.

[sapiendut]

With a definite risk of being called an "@$$ hole", to anybody who doesn't want to make coasters, there is something called:

DVD-RW... YES! the thing that can be re-written all over again.

I myself a newbie and just by reading the posts around here, I've made more than 300 DVDs without making a single coaster (other than the two coasters I made due to electrical brown-outs in my area).

rule of thumb:
1. asking questions that's waaaay too basic will get anybody flamed. To learn more about DVD, CD and other optical medias in general, you can go to http://www.howstuffworks.com

2. being afraid of making coaster is no excuse. RW medias are cheap (no more than US$2 each), use it for practice. I bought one, use it everytime I'm not certain about something.

[Karate Media]

sapien --

one thing about RW, for me at least, is that my main standalone DVD player (Toshiba 5-disc player) doesn't recognize any of the DVD+/-RW discs I've tried in it.

Add to that the fact that my PC is much more accomodating when it comes to authored DVDs (for example, discs created with DVD Complete work fine in my PC, but none of them will play in the Toshiba - in fact, they cause it to freeze up). So if I test a disc in my PC, I still have no idea if it will play in the Toshiba (my Mintek seems to take whatever I throw at it, though).

So in my situation I keep some cheap +/- R discs (like DupEz) around for when I need to use test discs, but which I don't mind sacrificing.

And tjtoed got me thinking -- what possesses people to give their threads the least descriptive subject titles? How do people expect to draw attention to their questions with titles like, "Help!" "PLEASE HELP ME!!!" and "ASSISTANCE NEEDED! DVD QUESTION!"?

...


Hmm, now that I think about it, I usually end up reading those threads out of sheer curiousity, so maybe it does work better...

[tjtoed]

Hmm, now that I think about it, I usually end up reading those threads out of sheer curiousity, so maybe it does work better...

So maybe we have doing it wrong the whole time...

[jdizzy40]

oooh Good Post people. I now know why I can't burn that top clear see-through disk that is on the top of multipy packaged DVD's (just kidding). Gee it's the simple things that make life complete. Mean while a half a mile away, 50 houses cease to exist due to a F-4 Twister (Fujita Scale) that rolled through Kansas City today. I found a DVD Movie in my front yard tonight and it wasn't mine.

[rkr1958]

Does this mean I can't burn multiple music CDs to one DVD-R and get it to play in my turntable (record player)? ... Just Kiddin ... This is / was a fun thread.

[Popee]

In the beginning, (sounds sort of biblical right?). There was Free Tech Help, for any software that was purchased, and it was forever. Wait times were not that long. and the tech usually knew all the answers. We're talking 1980's here (the good old days).

During the same period, software manuals were gigantic and very comprehensive. Remember also, that during that time (the middle ages, in computer time) there was no email, and the internet had not been invented by Al Gore, or anyone else for that matter.

Whenever I needed information, I would search through the manual for hours, then call friends who were PC gurus, and resorting to calling tech help only as a last ditch effort to find the answers I needed. The good part was that I gained enormous amounts of information by perusing through the manuals and whatever else was available (Like "Dummy" books) in my search for answers.

Alas, many out there were too lazy and too much in a hurry to spend time searching for answers, and at the first glitch, picked up the phone and called tech help. Fast forward a few years, and things have changed out of necessity for the software and hardware companies. Telephone support, what little there is, is limited to a certain period after purchase, and is no longer supplied by extremenly qualified personnel. Currently, most 'technicians' are just barely qualified albeit friendly people, who sit in front of a PC with an online troubleshooting manual in front of them, to answer mostly stupid questions from folks too lazy to pick up a manual or go online to find help.

My hats off to Karate Media, and the others who are telling it like it is. I have learned a vast amount of information from this site, and others like it. It's just too bad we can't bring back real tech help, the way it used to be. But that was lost in the quest for instant gratification.

Ron

[Lance Mannion]

As a newbie myself, I just want to say that I think there have been some excellent points made here. Some of which have nothing to do with DVD or VCD or SVCD, etc, etc. etc. Remember the important things here. But also remember that silly questions get jumped on. People shouldn't be afraid to, yes I'm gonna say it, READ. Sorry, but I had to. But people shouldn't be afraid to ask for help.

I love this site, because of exactly what they offer and how they offer it. As a newbie, I have received help in both ways. Asking and reading. Some of this stuff is very technical and I'm sure that you may need to ask about something after reading about it. Then again, asking if a DVD can be played in a CD player isn't. Sorry, but it is the truth. I can't defend a guy for asking a question like that. But I guess I do give him credit for having the bal, oops, sorry, for asking that question. Hopefully people got a chuckle from it. And that is good.

Now for a really important question...

If I could fit a DVD+RW disk inside the case of a 3.5 inch floppy, could a play the DVD in my floppy drive? Or can I play the insides of the 3.5 inch floppy in my DVD player (it'a a sony... forget it, the fun is wearing off) AND I WAS JUST KIDDING!