DV (AVI type 1) to DVD using DVD2SVCD

[jnk76]

I am fairly knowledgable with the program (DVD2SVCD) and I would like to now use it for something a little different.

I have made a home movie on mini DV and did my editing and what not in Ulead Media Pro and then exported as AVI.....I think type 1 but it was so long ago I may have gotten it wrong and it is type 2. Regardless the problems I am having. The avi file is just under 7.5GB and when I choose the file from DVD2SVCD it gives error. I tried using Canopos to convert but it gives errors when I try and keep as one big file and just convert to the other TYPE 1 or 2. I then used the method of max. 1GB file size and then just used one of those and it freezes at CCE stage.
I used the dv converter in the tools section of this site and it works to be converted but still freezes at the CCE stage. I don't have the setup settings for CCE with me but I got the settings from doom.org for a DVD and it worked for DVD ripping perfectly.

TMPGEnc does this file no problem and the quality is excellent but being a person who does not give up I was wondering if any one has thoughts why I can't it to work with CCE or DVD2SVCD.

Thanks

[DJRumpy]

You already have CCE. Just frameserve it directly and be done with it. DVD2SVCD doesn't seem to like any other version of CCE besides 2.50, which is pretty old as CCE goes. You end up using VFAPI Converter to frameserve to it in 'compatability mode', with various crashes as a result (unless your using 2.50 of course).

If you insist on using CCE, select CBR mode in conjunction with compatability mode, and your encode will probably go without issue.

DVD2SVCD is a nice idea, but it tends to fall flat where it counts. Most newbies turn to it out of desperation, or frustration with the conversion process. You sound knowledgable enough. I'd say it's time to put away such toys

[jnk76]

Thanks for your comments DJRumpy

I am using CCE 2.50 I do not have the newer version. If needed I will get it. I do not have that much experience with frameserving and when I tried to do it with Adobe Premier right into CCE I had lots of errors and problems and just gave up on that route and used Ulead. I agree with you that DVD2SVCD is an awesome neebie tool and I have used it for a very long time but I found myself using it not because of its ease of use or other advanced methods which used differents more manual methods. I had time constraints....with having a kid just recently my focus of time has switched to him I still enjoy doing my back-ups and tickering and playing but just don't have the time anymore so I have to sacrifice a little sometimes.

Since I am using 2.50 do you have any other thoughts to as why it freezed at CCE? It brings up the GUI and types the files in to use but between that and the actual re-encoding stage is the freeze up.

I am also willing to try to go to latest CCE version but can you please provide link for what I am trying to do please? I have looked on this forum and doom but can't find much about using the uncompressed avi files from DV.

Thanks

[DJRumpy]

Frameserving looks difficult in practice. It's actually pretty easy. Assuming your familiar with VirtualDub, you simply drop your AVI into VirtualDub. Set your filters/resizing options. Select FILE | START FRAMESERVER. It will prompt you with a Frameserver name. Leave the default, or it it's blank, just type in anything. It will then prompt you to type in a .VDR filename. This is the psuedo file that will be served to CCE. Give it a filename ending with the .VDR extension.

I don't know for certain if CCE 2.50 will read .VDR files. You should be able to just drag and drop the .VDR file onto CCE. I'm sure someone else can answer for certain. Make sure you encode only a small sample, and check your output to make sure it looks right. Frameserving can be tricky to setup, especially with the older versions of CCE. You should try to get up to version 2.64 or higher.

[dvd2svcd]

jnk76: You can try and pipe your AVI through Edwin's Link2 program ( www.videotools.net ). I haven't tried it myself but it might work. Just load the Link2 AVI in dvd2svcd.

DJRumpy: The latest versions of dvd2svcd supports all the latest CCE (2.66 and 2.67). Besides, the prior versions also supported Link2 frameserving (besides vfapi) and Link2 is as fast as native AVS. Please read up before you make false posts. Also, I would like to know where exactly dvd2svcd falls though on where it counts.

[jnk76]

DVD2SVCD,

Thank-You for that info......even more interesting than the link2 program is the plugin for Ulead Media to directly link to CCE and TMPGnc. I wish that was out when I originally did this.....oh well. I will try the other program though.

[troyvcd1]

Is there any quality loss when using dvd2svcd. I have never been able to get that frameserving thing to work. DVD2svcd seems like a godsend and it uses all the best programs like besweet etc... If you use dvd2svcd and set the bitrate right I dont see why it cant be used to make a dvd. Am I missing something???

[DJRumpy]

Besides, the prior versions also supported Link2 frameserving (besides vfapi) and Link2 is as fast as native AVS. Please read up before you make false posts. Also, I would like to know where exactly dvd2svcd falls though on where it counts.

I'm sure it's a fine product. I just don't need it. Back in my newb days, when I tried it, it was buggy ( I should say buggy, but only with CCE, which is where it counts). It tended to fail at seemingly random points in the conversion process (although it did have a nice recovery feature..they did keep that didn't they?). It despised any version of CCE I had above 2.50. The only way I could get it to function, was using CBR mode. The software also suggested 'compatability' mode for any version of CCE other than 2.50. If this has changed, I do apologize. The last time I even glanced at it was a about 3 months ago. It was still prompting to use compatability mode for newer versions.
I'm guessing it still has problems with CCE, hence the reason for jnk76's post.
Lighten up. It wasn't a personal attack. It's just an opinion.

[jnk76]

troyvcd1: It depends on how much compression you are doing that determines the bitrate and therefore quality. I was making SVCD back-ups of DVD's that when given to the average joe would think it was DVD. That is an avg. compression of apprx. 5-6 Gb to 1.6GB. CCE is an awesome encoder and does an awesome job for Mpeg2. I have made files which can be used for DVD's right from CCE. The quality was excellent.

DJRumpy: I have been using DVD2SVCD for over a year now and I have not run into any issues when using it for what it was originally designed to do....which is make SVCD from DVD's. It has adopted a lot a new features along the way and some of those has been buggy. I know the only reason I have problems know is because I am trying to import an avi.
This is at the defence of DVD2SVCD not an attack on you. I just think that because the program is a friendly program there is so much you can do at such high quality with a lot of control that it really is my favorite program to use. But that is my opinion of course and others will differ.

Getting back to the topic......I have not looked into link2 program I have been too busy.....I am at this point more interested in the plugins that serve to CCE now.....I may do some new videos now.