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  1. I've been using ConvertXtoDVD for a few months now, and I've suddenly realized that it's seriously cropping the videos that I'm feeding to it.

    For example, I've got an AVI file that is somewhat widescreen - I can see black bars at the top and bottom when I play the avi on my standalone player. But if I convert it to a dvd with ConvertXtoDVD, the picture is full screen, and I can see that a LOT of the picture has been cropped out.

    At some point in the past, I tried going into Settings/TV Format and changing the TV Screen variable from Automatic to 16:9. Since I've been seeing this problem, I've tried encoding using Automatic, 16:9 and 4:3 and I don't see any difference.

    Does anyone know what might have changed? Or is ConvertXtoDVD simply like this and I never noticed before.
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    Maybe just overscan that you haven't noticed before.
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    you might try unistalling, deleting any settings files and re-installing. i'm using the latest version and have never run across that problem. can't recall it in any old version either, though....
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  4. Originally Posted by aedipuss
    you might try unistalling, deleting any settings files and re-installing. i'm using the latest version and have never run across that problem. can't recall it in any old version either, though....
    Sounds like a plan. I'm going to run one last test (convert in all three settings) to verify that I'm not hallucinating this, and then I'll re-install. Thanks.
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  5. Ok - now it's getting strange.

    I converted it and burned it to a disc. I used WinDVD to view the disc and it looked fine. WinDVD resized its window to widescreen, and the entire picture was visible.

    I took the same DVD and played it on my standalone player (Philips 641) and it was badly cropped.

    This player is playing everything else just fine. I tried the "zoom" button on the remote, but that just made it worse.
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  6. Well, I tried uninstalling/reinstalling and resetting the settings to default. No change.

    I need to put a couple shows onto a DVD for someone that's in the hospital. I have a portable DVD player to loan her that doesn't do divx.

    So I think I'll start another thread about CCE for the total newbie.
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    Try opening the ifo file with IFOEDIT and see what aspect ratio is used. If it's 4:3 then change it to 16:9
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  8. I took the same DVD and played it on my standalone player (Philips 641) and it was badly cropped.

    In addition to the TV overscan, that POS player does additional cropping of its own:
    But unfortunately, the player has a low white level of 97 IRE, fails below black, has some excessive pixel cropping (5 on each side), ...
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all&type=...PhilipsDVP-642
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    The latest versions of ComvertXtoDVD support encoding avs scripts. Use FitCD to create a script that adds borders, then use this when encoding with ConvertXtoDVD. Your overscan problems will be, if not solved, substantially reduced.
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    Originally Posted by enchanted
    Ok - now it's getting strange.

    I converted it and burned it to a disc. I used WinDVD to view the disc and it looked fine. WinDVD resized its window to widescreen, and the entire picture was visible.

    I took the same DVD and played it on my standalone player (Philips 641) and it was badly cropped.

    This player is playing everything else just fine. I tried the "zoom" button on the remote, but that just made it worse.
    You have just explained TV OVERSCAN. Nothing is wrong.

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  11. Originally Posted by guns1inger
    The latest versions of ComvertXtoDVD support encoding avs scripts. Use FitCD to create a script that adds borders, then use this when encoding with ConvertXtoDVD. Your overscan problems will be, if not solved, substantially reduced.
    I'm sure you're right. Although the avi files I created previously have the bars top and bottom, they were probably already there when I burned them. What I'm trying to burn now is simply widescreen without any pre-placed border.

    Thanks for the help!
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    You don't seem to get it. This has nothing to do with the black bars on widescreen DVDs. This is to do with every TV you have ever owned, and every DVD in your collection. Take any DVD you own, and play a scene back on your TV. Note where the edge of the visible frame is. Now open the same disc on your PC and see how much is hidden from you in the overscan area. The discs you create are exactly the same. Nothing is cut off.

    The script FitCD creates resizes your image to fit inside the area visible on your TV screen (well, close as it can - overscan differs from TV to TV), by adding a border all the way around. You wont see this border on most TVs, but you will see almost the edge of your movie. This is the only way to fix this "problem" that you perceive.
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  13. Originally Posted by guns1inger
    You don't seem to get it.
    Of that, I'm painfully aware.

    The script FitCD creates resizes your image to fit inside the area visible on your TV screen (well, close as it can - overscan differs from TV to TV), by adding a border all the way around. You wont see this border on most TVs, but you will see almost the edge of your movie. This is the only way to fix this "problem" that you perceive.
    This seems to be one of these situations where every time I find a potential solution, another problem occurs.

    I did download FitCD and ran it. (A rather daunting array of controls to deal with for neophytes, but perhaps the initial defaults will get me close and I can experiment with tweaking.) I loaded my avi file and ran the script. Please don't beat me up for my ignorance here, but I assume that I should now drag the newly created avs file into ConvertXtoDVD. Taking a quick look at the preview window showed the output with a border on the top and bottom, which looked promising. However, when I tried to convert it, the log screen started quickly scanning lines like this:

    Discontinuity #105 in stream#1: 00:2:46.958 of gap. This is frequent from TV source (ADVs time)

    I did a little research on Google and couldn't find anything helpful. Someone recommended reinstalling the older version of CXD, but that didn't make a difference.
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    Here is my "mini" guide to using FitCD ---> CLICK HERE

    I also ended up writing a guide on how to convert from AVI to MPEG-2 DVD spec using a variety of tools ... all of which are freeware.

    Here is a link to that thread ---> CLICK HERE

    Good Luck but please note that TV OVERSCAN is normal. I'm still not sure you understand that so I'll take my stab at explaining it.

    The video image on a TV has the extreme edges covered over by the frame of the TV so you don't see the extreme edges. This "cuts" the image on the top, bottom, left and right. This is called TV OVERSCAN and this has been done since the very early days of TV. It is normal.

    A computer screen does not have any OVERSCAN so when watching video on a computer screen (or monitor I should say) you do see the extreme edges of the image. You see ALL of the image.

    What FitCD does is attempts to resize the video to a size that is a little bit smaller than the Full Resolution of the TV screen but you still have to have the video at the "proper" resolution so a black border is added. So for instance a Full Screen AVI might be 640x480 right which in DVD resolution is 720x480 which is the Full Resolution of the TV screen. However if you use FitCD then you will find that it will determine that you can resize the image to around 656x432 (in a frame of 720x480) instead of resizing direct to 720x480. So you end up with the same image but this time it is 656x432 with a black border around it to make it 720x480 total. Since the image has been resized to a smaller size it now will fit inside the visible area of the TV screen. FitCD allows you to adjust for OVERSCAN with 4 settings. 0 is no adjustment. 1 is a little bit of adjustment, 2 is more of an adjustment and 3 is the most adjustment. Sometimes when you use 3 you will find that the image is so small that you may even see a bit of the black border in the visible area of the TV screen.

    So the idea when using FitCD is to adjust it to minimize TV OVERSCAN but not so much that you see the border ... also the other main reason to use FitCD is to make sure you resize properly from one format to another (i.e., from AVI to DVD etc.) while maintaining the aspect ratio correctly.

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  15. Originally Posted by FulciLives
    Good Luck but please note that TV OVERSCAN is normal.
    Yes, I do understand that, and thanks for taking the time to explain it clearly.

    I actually have the ultra-secret decoder codes to get me into my TV's maintenance mode, and I've played around with modifying the overscan. I don't think that's what it was called in the menu, but it turned out to be set at a pretty optimal spot. When I adjusted it to see more picture, the edges started to distort.

    But this situation that I'm talking about wasn't a problem with the TV overscanning. In this case, it was lopping off about a third of the picture.

    I've got two versions of a specific TV show that I'm using for my testing. One works just fine. On my TV, I see the full width (or pretty nearly so), and the vertical is cropped with shadow boxes. On the other, everyone's head is cut off, and you can't see a LOT of the left and right side.

    After running it through FitCD, it looked like it was going to work, but for the CXD errors I was getting.

    I'm going to take some time and look through the guides you posted. Thanks for that!
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    Sorry if this has been answered before, but do LCD and Plasma TV's have any overscan or is it just CRT's ?
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    Originally Posted by spanky123
    Sorry if this has been answered before, but do LCD and Plasma TV's have any overscan or is it just CRT's ?
    My understanding is that almost all Televisions that can do NO OVERSCAN (such as LCD and Plasma) still enforce OVERSCAN unless they feature a VGA input. In that case the VGA input does NOT have OVERSCAN since it is expected that you are using it for displaying a computer desktop. When using the other inputs however they do force OVERSCAN.

    At least that seems to be the "norm" as I understand it.

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