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  1. Member yoda313's Avatar
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    So have you purchased a downloadable video online? I have yet to do that. Though now that cinemanow and others are just starting to allow you to burn to dvd I may try it out just to see how feasbile it is (though on my slow dsl -300kbps- its not an instant gratification by any means).
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    I haven't and probably won't for the same reason that I have purchased very few DVDs this year. There just aren't enough movies out there that I'm willing to buy.
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    No, because I'm waiting for a decent selection to become available in Canada. once I can download shows like Lost or Battlestar Galactica or either of the Stargate's i'll be all over it, but for now, the selection for Canadians kinda sucks.
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  5. NO

    Buying DRM stuff which I can't use later, and is lower quality than a DVD, does not interest me.

    I have tested bigpond.com (bigpond movies / Sony) and found the quality/price ratio to be horrible compared to renting or even buying most DVD's. There is also the issue of used downloads if you are on a high speed (24Mbit) but downloads limited plan, like myself.
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    No.

    Reasons: Same as offline above.
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    Well....
    Once again there is no answer that would apply for me.
    I have used my C.C. many many times for online purchases of hard good's but have yet to have ever seen any type of movie/video that i feel would be of acceptable quality that i would want to DL let alone pay for and DL to burn to a dvd
    Best Buy is maybe 4 minutes away so if i want something i just drive down and buy it 8)
    If they don't have it locally, E-bay & some searches for a hard copy.
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    i tried movielink a few times a couple years ago. the picture was fair and it was 2-channel stereo. if you could download dvd-quality titles, (i'd even settle for hq Divx) then i'd probably be sold - the convenience is great...
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    waiting for better video quality, I haven't seen any service with dvd quality or better yet.
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    I don't believe you will see DVD quality video for quite sometime. Downloading 4-8GB worth of data is bandwidth sapping. It is very convenient and the price is really good when you can get beyond that movies should cost what you believe they should cost. A $500 phone maybe overpriced for you and completely within reason to someone else. DRM is simply a fact of life. If you believe you will be able to avoid DRM on any media in the next few years you are not living on earth.
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    Well you can use newer video formats and get dvd quality, H264 (1 - 2MBits) and AC3 audio (448kbits), 1.5-2GB for 2 hours. But still a bit too much downloading for most and the new video codecs requires very fast cpu...
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    That is the problem in the distribution channel. In order to reach the broadest spectrum of audience you need to cater to the broadest spectrum of systems. This is why PC gaming rarely makes a huge leap forward. They need to keep it realistic for everybody in order to achieve profitable success.
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    My DVR fu*ked up a recording of Prison Break last season so I downloaded it the next day. Quality sucked but it was better than waiting 6 months for the DVD to come out and missing the rest of the season.
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    The day I own what I buy (not just the right to watch it on the device I used to DL it) I may be interested...

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  15. Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    The day I own what I buy (not just the right to watch it on the device I used to DL it) I may be interested.../Mats

    Hi Mats,

    I'll add my .02 cents!

    In your profile one of your operating systems is Windows.
    We are permitted to use Windows on our PCs, but we don't own it.
    Other software is the same.

    (You also use Linux but I'm not familiar with ownership rules for that.)



    Now, to answer the poll, I haven't purchased downloadable videos.

    I've purchased e-books and software, but I'm always worried about losing
    the download halfway through, even though my connection is fast.

    With videos I'd worry about the same thing, but also wonder how much
    quality they could squeeze into a small file. I've downloaded old (archive)
    videos and between the time it takes and the somewhat poor quality I'm glad
    that I didn't have to pay for it!

    I think renting videos/movies/TV shows is very reasonable so they would have
    to come up with something a lot better to beat it.

    But, of course, anything is better than television!

    It would be interesting for people to mention some of the video titles
    that they are purchasing and downloading. Also if they are pleased with
    the quality of the video. (ToolFool already mentioned that in his post)
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  16. Originally Posted by offline
    NO

    Buying DRM stuff which I can't use later, and is lower quality than a DVD, does not interest me.
    That sums it up for me.
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    Originally Posted by 3Simon7
    Hi Mats,
    In your profile one of your operating systems is Windows.
    Yes, as my employer provides it for me (among other work related pieces of software).

    /Mats
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  18. Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    Originally Posted by 3Simon7
    Hi Mats,
    In your profile one of your operating systems is Windows.
    Yes, as my employer provides it for me (among other work related pieces of software).

    /Mats
    What I meant was even though we buy the software we don't really own it.

    Your boss bought the operating system but he/she doesn't own it.

    Hopefully this makes my other post make sense, but probably not!
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    Back before they locked our machines down and forced me to work days I downloaded a few movies from Movielink when I was really hard up for something to keep me away.
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    Originally Posted by Baldrick
    Well you can use newer video formats and get dvd quality, H264 (1 - 2MBits) and AC3 audio (448kbits), 1.5-2GB for 2 hours. But still a bit too much downloading for most and the new video codecs requires very fast cpu...
    I saw on cinemanow that they are supposed to be offering "hd" quality divx with surround sound. I don't know what codec they really use but it would be interesting if its really improved over the standard.

    Truth be told I haven't bought a "standard" download to know enough to honestly compare them. But yeah higher quality is possible at the expense of file size and system requirements.
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    Baldrick wrote:

    waiting for better video quality, I haven't seen any service with dvd quality or better yet.
    Yes, this is true. But..

    Most encoder-uploader-freekies are still trying to fit 700mb on a cd-r. That seems
    to still be the norm of today.

    So, until people can move onward, and realize that some things have to change,
    ie, bitrate and method-process, you-all-everybody will have to suffer the
    continued aged-old practice of low-bitrate videos' -- or, Crap.

    The above is just my opinion

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  22. ROF: If you believe you will be able to avoid DRM on any media in the next few years you are not living on earth
    I don't believe anyone came close to even inferring that. I dislike DRM but I can accept it in certain circumstances if it is of sufficient quality and the price reflects the limitations of use.

    When I was with bigpond movies, they expected me to pay $5 for a new release that

    - could only be played on computer, not transferable to my HT media player (DRM)
    - stereo sound
    - slightly below average divx quality
    - forced to use buggy bloatware - a "movie download manager"
    - almost one hour download time (more if I used the net at the same time)
    - Limited to 1 day viewing
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    I would rather rent from the movie store or rent from DirecTv and if I like the movie, I'll buy it at Walmart when the price drops, yep I am cheap.
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  24. Originally Posted by ROF
    DRM is simply a fact of life. If you believe you will be able to avoid DRM on any media in the next few years you are not living on earth.
    The problem with DRM is the security holes that it creates. If they could come up with something that does not allow hackers free reign of my computers, then it would be better.
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    Originally Posted by offline
    ROF: If you believe you will be able to avoid DRM on any media in the next few years you are not living on earth
    I don't believe anyone came close to even inferring that. I dislike DRM but I can accept it in certain circumstances if it is of sufficient quality and the price reflects the limitations of use.

    When I was with bigpond movies, they expected me to pay $5 for a new release that

    - could only be played on computer, not transferable to my HT media player (DRM)
    - stereo sound
    - slightly below average divx quality
    - forced to use buggy bloatware - a "movie download manager"
    - almost one hour download time (more if I used the net at the same time)
    - Limited to 1 day viewing
    I agree DRM has some maturing to do before anyone can expect the mass audience to purchase more virtual copies than hard copy media. They need to allow portability and playability but still preserve the rights of the copyright owner to prevent piracy of this virtual media. At some point this will happen. These things take time and I don't think anybody can say big business is a fast mover.
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    Originally Posted by Dv8ted2
    Originally Posted by ROF
    DRM is simply a fact of life. If you believe you will be able to avoid DRM on any media in the next few years you are not living on earth.
    The problem with DRM is the security holes that it creates. If they could come up with something that does not allow hackers free reign of my computers, then it would be better.
    You refer to rootkits which are not the norm in DRM. When found they are squashed like bugs. Don't be so paranoid. Every DVD you brought home has DRM on it. I don't think gremlins are inside your DVR.

    I am speaking of Digital Rights Management(DRM) not Total Management Chaos(TMC).
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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    The day I own what I buy (not just the right to watch it on the device I used to DL it) I may be interested...

    /Mats
    You know I've said this before. Welcome to Earth Morloc. That future you describe sounds interesting but it must be some alternate reality either that or you tipped over the candy jar and have consumed all the sugars.
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    How about a general biometrics lock? All playback devices are equiped with some biometrics sensor (retina scanner?) that's used when I buy, and when i playback. I could live with that. Then it's locked to me, not the device I happpened to use for downloading it.

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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    How about a general biometrics lock? All playback devices are equiped with some biometrics sensor (retina scanner?) that's used when I buy, and when i playback. I could live with that. Then it's locked to me, not the device I happpened to use for downloading it.

    /Mats
    Then it becomes a question of privacy. Somehow people get all upset when someone wants their fingerprints, DNA, Retina scans or other. As if any of this stuff could not be readily taken unwittingly anyways. Not to sound paranoid but if someone wanted this stuff from you they probably already have it.
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    Not "someone". Something. Of course the biometric id is encoded in the media file. When you are about to play it, the playback device identifies you, compares the collected data with the data from the file. No info sent to anyone.
    The biometrics could be added at purchase (sent when you buy the video, just as you send your credit card #) or even encoded into it after it has been downloaded, locally. That way, no personal info (well, not any more than you willingly do today, when you buy something on the Internet) is sent anywhere.

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