C2D slower than Athlon64 on boot

[Caple]

Hi there.
I changed an Athlon64 3200+ for a C2D E6600 about a month ago.
Of course I don't have anything to complain about encoding speed. It's really fast.
The "problem" is that it seems to be slower on boot.
The time it takes during POST is ok, but I don't know why the Windows initializing takes so much time.
The bar that passes when Windows is loading takes much more time now.
On my Athlon64 it was about 3 times. Now it takes about 15 times (passes) to load Windows.
On a recently installed Windows it took about 8 times. Now, with everything installed, it takes 15 times, minimum.
I have just NOD32 and AdMuncher starting with Windows. The same that was on the other machine.
I believe it may be some problem on Windows instalation. Some strange things occur, like the one mentioned here -> https://forum.videohelp.com/topic328912.html
Any clue?

[redwudz]

It's not completely clear, but you did reformat the boot drive and reinstall Windows when you changed motherboards?

If not, that will cause all kinds of problems.

If you did reformat, it sounds like a bad Windows install. You could try running mscofig in a 'Run..." window and check your startup files.

[Caple]

I did format before installing Windows.
The programs starting with Windows are just NOD32 and AdMuncher.
I'm just asking cause a friend told me it was normal to take a longer boot time if I'm using a C2D and a 32bit Windows.
I believe it's not really true.
That's why I asked.
Gonna reinstall Windows to see if it gets faster.
Thanx for replying.

[redwudz]

Try booting a few times before you install any programs if you reformat and reinstall. Those two programs shouldn't affect boot speeds that much, but they may be doing an initial scan at boot up. But with msconfig, as mentioned, you could try different start up options and you may be able to find where the slowdown is.

Another place to look is the MS site. This one is for startup problems: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041

One other useful program for diagnosing slow boots is BootVis: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664

[Caple]

Yeah, BootVis. I couldn't remember the name of this program.
Thank you very much.

[redwudz]

It's been quite a while since I used it and I have a slow booting computer, so I was out looking for a solution. I also found a quick guide for it: http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardware_bootvis.php

[Caple]

As I did not know how the program works, I first used "optimize system" option. It rebooted and the bar passed 10 times, not the 15+ usual.
Then I tried "next boot trace" and it passed 8-9 times.
Now I see on the guide that I have to run the optimize after the trace. Seems like it's working, better than I expected.
But I still think there's something wrong with my Windows.
Will reinstall it as soon as I can.

[SingSing]

You should go to/from hibernation, instead of shut-down/boot-up.

Note : There are very little values to do a fresh re-boot, which just reload vast number of modules from Harddisk to memory. Unless there are major application changes.

[TBoneit]

The Value of shutting down is you can switch off the AC power to everything protecting it from any surges. You will IMHO extend life if you are leaving it suspended for long periods of disuse and short periods of use.

If turning it on and off 5 times a day then leave it on.

There is no set rule. I still think a fresh reload is better on a regular basis. And with so much always on Internet I'm not sure leaving it running non-suspended is a real good idea.

And some computers just do not like to hibernate and wake up properly.

[SingSing]

Complex electronics components last longer if you leave them on. That is the pratice when computers were expensive. Today PC workstations are mostly left on, and go to standby after the workers went home. Hibernation is a low power alternative.

We are so dependence on PC for information, it is not pratical to wait for minutes of boot up time, just to get phone number from the computer.

We have enjoyed the ability to get a operating PC within seconds to make VOIP call, check IM, Surf, whenever we want. Try it and find out what you missed.

[Caple]

You should go to/from hibernation, instead of shut-down/boot-up.

Note : There are very little values to do a fresh re-boot, which just reload vast number of modules from Harddisk to memory. Unless there are major application changes.

I just shut down or restart when I need.
My computer is 24/7.

[TBoneit]

My newest computer takes about a minute to boot up, if I can not wait that long then it wasn't important.

Not to hurt your feelings but VOIP, Yuck! IM? I'm not giving up my privacy that way. Same with Cell phone. I don't want one. I don't want to be accessible 24hrs a day. I see and feel sorry for those people I see that have a cell phone glued to their ear every where they go.

Edit: Of course I also see the cell phone and the noise they bring as one more incremental lowering of the quality of life.