best way to convert 15mins Xvid

[lfe]

hi, i got a 15min xvid video that i want to convert to a format that will play on all pal dvd players. I want to burn it on a 700MB cdr so i was just wondering what format/setting would be best to sqeeze out of the 700mb of space., and the best program to do it with.
Im using win xp (p42.6).
this is the file i want to convert.

File : 174 MB (174 MB), duration: 0:15:12, type: AVI, 1 audio stream(s), quality: 66 %
Video : 157 MB, 1452 Kbps, 23.976 fps, 640*288 (2.21:1), XVID = XVID Mpeg-4
Audio : 16.59 MB, 152 Kbps, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, 0x55 = MPEG Layer-3,

Thanks for any help.

[jimmalenko]

If you want to put it on a CD AND have it playable on the most number of players then you are pretty much left with VCD, because not all players play SVCD, MiniDVD, or AVIs directly. VCD means MPEG-1 which means that you can't have 23.976fps, so you will need to do a frame rate conversion also. If you plan to use TMPGEnc, you will need to re-encode the audio because it doesn't like VBR MP3 audio either. Perhaps have a look at a few of the AVI to VCD guides in the guides section ?

[bugster]

VCD means MPEG-1 which means that you can't have 23.976fps,

Actually the VCD spec specificaly supports 23.976fps.

Personally I would simply burn the xvid as is with no conversion to CD, including a copy of the xvid codec and instructions on installing it for those that need it, unless this is for proffessional distribution.

EDIT - Note to self: read the original post carefully. You want to play it on standalone DVD players, not PC's!! Forget what I said.

For best compatibility, VCD is the way to go, and you will need to convert it to PAL, which means changing the framerate and audio duration. Various guides for doing this.
Consider using CDRW, more expensive but seem to have better compatibility than CDR

[mats.hogberg]

For 100% PC playabilty - look at MoviX. For fair stand alone playability, go for SVCD (but not too close to max bit rate - some players have probs above 2000 kbps). For good stand alone playability: Go for VCD.
For best stand alone playability: create a DVD. But keep in mind that not all stand alones play all kinds of DVD (-R, +R, -RW, +RW) and not all manufacures of DVD-R (or other R type).

/Mats

[jimmalenko]

VCD means MPEG-1 which means that you can't have 23.976fps,

Actually the VCD spec specificaly supports 23.976fps.

True

I got my 23.976fps and 3:2 pulldown on playbacks mixed up.

[lfe]

well i didnt want to go vcd, because the quality would be low, and also its only 15mins, so i wanted to go the best quality possible to fill up the cd.
Does converting to dvd format have to be burnt on a dvd to play or can the format be burnt on a cdr or does the dvd player know that its a cdr with the dvd format on it?
otherwise i'll just go svcd.


thanks again.

[ZippyP.]

DVD format on a CD is called mini-DVD and plays on very few DVD players, like almost none.

[mats.hogberg]

otherwise i'll just go svcd.

I'd go that route. But for 15 mins, there will still be a good portion (like 2/3) left unused on the CD. Like ZippyP says, not many players do MiniDVD unfortunately. (Mine actually does, but only if I keep the bit rate at or below SVCD bit rates, so there's nothing gained (except for creating cool manues).)

/Mats

[lfe]

thanks for the help all.
Ill just go with svcd then.