VCD Burning Novice

[tweedledee]

What happens when you try to play on your computer?

[Beyonder]

write image or open from vcdeasy or from within nero.

I know i sound stupid but dont want to keep on asking you the same questions!!

So do you know why my initial method didnt work??

[tweedledee]

Does it play on your computer?
You have to try things a few times. Just because it didn't play doesn't mean it won't play if you try again.

[mats.hogberg]

Hey Mats, if I had that video I'd just open NERO choose VCD and burn.Why author? Maybe I'm missing something.

Yes, you've missed a lot. Without telling you, Nero (tries to) author your mpg to VCD, then burns it. But as (various versions of) Nero sux when it comes to authoring, it's better to leave this task to applications that can perform this step reliably.

/Mats

[Beyonder]

yes plays fine on my pc

[disturbed1]

but thats exactly what i did just burnt it with nero and it doesnt play on my dvd player!!


Well it recognises that its a vcd but all i get is a tiny black box in the middle of the screen!!

Did you ever try to just press play??????

Nero creates a menu for the VCD, this is what pops up first.

[mats.hogberg]

So do you know why my initial method didnt work??

Bacuse some versions of Nero is broken when it comes to creating VCD, specially if you try to create a menu. You might try the Nero route if you disable menu.
But I can't understand why so many insist on using Nero for everything?!? There are better apps for almost anything it does. It's not that horrible to use different tools for different tasks, is it? The Swiss Army Knife approach is never the best.

/Mats

[Beyonder]

im not that thick!!
Of course i pressed play!!

[disturbed1]

What's on your TV screen is a nero generated menu.

Notice the "generated by NERO" text.

Depending on the options you selected in Nero, pressing play, or the number 1 on the remote will play the clip. IF the version of Nero you have happens to work correctly.

Older (5.0xxxx) versions of Nero worked well for VCD, but not anything else. Not sure about the "Ultra" version.

Your first attempt failed, because you attempted to use Nero. As mats has pointed out, Nero doesn't do much correctly.

VCDEasy would most likely be your best bet. Drag the mpg to VCDEasy, author, then burn.

If your stuck along the way, don't forget to RTFM.

[tweedledee]

Yes, you've missed a lot. Without telling you, Nero (tries to) author your mpg to VCD, then burns it

But Mats, I've burned lots of vcd's with Nero and it won't try to author them if the file is the correct format. Maybe this time there was a stuff up and it doesn' work. Do another burn and see what happens (use a RW)

[Beyonder]

many thanks one and all for this, i hope it works.

Thank you

[mats.hogberg]

I've burned lots of vcd's with Nero and it won't try to author them if the file is the correct format.

I think you're confusing authoring with encoding. They are two separate completely unrelated tasks (and should therefore be carried out with different tools). A VCD has to be authored, just like a DVD. You provide the authoring app with a suitably encoded mpg, which gets authored to a format (VCD, SVCD or DVD in this world). This involves building dierctory structures, making ifos and stuff (if it's a dvd) and many other tasks.
This is carried out (just as when encoding) to meet specifications of the target format, and can be done more (VCDEasy) or less (Nero) successfully.

/Mats

[Beyonder]

mats,

So for the final time, i create the bin/cue with vcd easy.

Then i go into nero and burn the bin/cue onto a cd???

Is that correct??

was wondering would anyone like to tell me what the bin/cue is or what authoring does??

Does it matter what kind os cd it is? cd-r or rw etc etc

[mats.hogberg]

mats,

So for the final time, i create the bin/cue with vcd easy.

Then i go into nero and burn the bin/cue onto a cd???

Is that correct??

Yes!!!

was wondering would anyone like to tell me what the bin/cue is or what authoring does??

A cue/bin is an image (bin) of the contents of a CD (or DVD) along with instructions on how that image is to be written to the CD (the cue)
If you take a look under WHAT IS top left and look up what constitutes a VCD, and compare that to the mpg file you feed into the authoring app, you get what authoring does.

Does it matter what kind os cd it is? cd-r or rw etc etc

Not at all - if your player can read them. -RW is more DVD player compatible than -R if anything.

/Mats

[Roderz]

is that your real hair by the way

No mine is longer & spikier thank you.

Just open nero and press the F1 key - problem solved!

[tweedledee]

I think you're confusing authoring with encoding. They are two separate completely unrelated tasks (and should therefore be carried out with different tools

"I see," said the blind man, as he pissed into the fan, "it's all coming back to me now". Gotcha.