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  1. All of my recent captures has been a little off, no matter what resolution or program I use to capture with!? As you can see the left side of the capture display has a slight space in it! This has never happened to me before and seeing how I've been tinkering and tweaking settings all day I seem to have screwed something up, doesn't matter what res or program I use they all cap with that damn little space in the frame!!!! Anybody have any idea?

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    I got the same thing after I switched to the s-video port...while watching...
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  3. What's your video source? What driver do you use? The aver one? BTwincap?

    To me it looks like it is in your source. It is possible to capture larger than the 'active window' of the source. DV devices do this all of the time.

    Edit Maybe it's a ghost.
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    OVERSCAN... it is fine... will not be seen on tv
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  5. Originally Posted by trevlac
    What's your video source? What driver do you use? The aver one? BTwincap?

    To me it looks like it is in your source. It is possible to capture larger than the 'active window' of the source. DV devices do this all of the time.

    Edit Maybe it's a ghost.
    LOL, thanks man!! Video source is svideo from cable box, using the btwincap drivers!! No i don't think I can capture larger than the active window of the source as it's at 720x480!!?

    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    OVERSCAN... it is fine... will not be seen on tv
    Allrighty then the lord has spoken, thanks you!! it's just kinda weird though as I have never noticed that space in there before but haven't burned any to to dvd yet to actually see if it shows up on the tv.

    Thanks again guys!!
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    I don't make dvd's, so is there a way to remove it?
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  7. The BTwincap driver captures 712 pixels regardless of what size you ask. Those pixels are then up sampled to 720 if you ask for 720. NTSC CATV source is only 711 max. So in fact, you are capturing ever so slightly more than the signal source. This 1 pixel has nothing to do with the bar. It is likely that there was a black bar in the source feed.

    Have you tried different channels?

    And LS is of course correct. You will not see it on a regular TV.

    To bad he had to shout.
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  8. Originally Posted by Amaze
    I don't make dvd's, so is there a way to remove it?
    What do you make? If you removed it, would you replace it with something else?
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    Originally Posted by trevlac
    To bad he had to shout.
    Don't think of me as shouting. This is shouting to me. I just use CAPS on IMPORTANT words so nobody misses them.

    Maybe BLUE if it's REALLY important.

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    no, I mean remove it completly, stop it from showing, whatever...is there a setting for it or am I stuck with it?
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    Originally Posted by Amaze
    no, I mean remove it completly, stop it from showing, whatever...is there a setting for it or am I stuck with it?
    Crop it at encode or re-encode is MPEG capturing. TMPGENC PLUS has crop filters, works well. ... only good if computer is final viewing format, but even then MOST DVDs have this "problem" because they were made for tv too, especially tv series discs.

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  12. Originally Posted by Amaze
    no, I mean remove it completly, stop it from showing, whatever...is there a setting for it or am I stuck with it?
    As smurf pointed out. If you cut it off (crop) you will change the frame size. DVD/SVCD/etc. have specific sizes that are required. You can not just crop and resize or you will skew the picture. (But maybe thats ok for you). PS: you can crop all sides and then upsize the whole picture. This will screw up interlaced source so you need to know what you are doing.

    For PC viewing (not winDVD powerDVD etc) no frame size is forced.

    Finally, as again pointed out by our dear lord, for TV viewing you will not see the edge of any picture.

    If you want more help, you need to say where you intend to view it (PC/TV), what format(dvd/svcd/divx), what player (if it is on a pc).
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  13. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by trevlac
    To bad he had to shout.
    Don't think of me as shouting. This is shouting to me. I just use CAPS on IMPORTANT words so nobody misses them.

    Maybe BLUE if it's REALLY important.

    Don't go writing your own standard now. :P

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    Originally Posted by trevlac
    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    Originally Posted by trevlac
    To bad he had to shout.
    Don't think of me as shouting. This is shouting to me. I just use CAPS on IMPORTANT words so nobody misses them.

    Maybe BLUE if it's REALLY important.

    Don't go writing your own standard now. :P

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    I intend to make x-vid files, final resolution will be 512x384...capturing at 640x480...

    not sure what crop is, but will I cut off a similar on the other side too?
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    I have had captures in the past that go wavy on the very bottom and top - I think it is just the tracking on my VCR - but I ahve removed them by using TMPGEnc and adding a border ?

    I seem to remember that by placing this black border 10 pixels in from top and bottom replaced the bad areas with black bars but retained the original resolution.
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    it's my cablebox that does it to me, both through s-video and tuner port...I could just bypass the box, but then I'll lose hbo...
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  18. Originally Posted by Amaze
    I intend to make x-vid files, final resolution will be 512x384...capturing at 640x480...

    not sure what crop is, but will I cut off a similar on the other side too?
    I can't say much about xvid. I do mainly dvd stuff. Cap at 640x480 makes sense. If you don't want to see the black, crop means cut off the side.
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  19. I use TMPNGEnc and capture at 720x480. What I normally do is crop the top and bottom bars off completely. How I do this is go to clip frame. Before doing that, I set the Video Arrange Method to Fullscreen (Keep aspect ratio). Once inside the clip frame filter, I do not check any of the mask checkboxes. I use the arrows until the top and bottom black bars are covered with new ones. To make it easier, you should use the scrollbar on the preview window to find a light scene. You can also change the new bars to a new color temporary so that you know how much to cut before you cut into the picture. Just make sure to turn them back to black before encoding. I cropped 104 off of the top and 100 off of the bottom on my current project. I'm going from 4:3 to 16:9, so I took the extra step of choosing 16:9 in the display properties box which is the same screen where you find the encode mode (CBR, 2-Pass VBR, etc.).

    I do have a question though. I decided to crop 8 off of the left hand side so the image will not have a black bar on that side when I view it on my PC. When I played the resulting DVD-RW on my current 4:3 TV, I did not find any problems with doing this. It also played fine on my PC. It seems okay, but is this going to cause a problem when I play the RW on a 16:9 TV? My output is still set to 16:9 and 720x480.

    I wish I would have found this thread before I cropped off the the left side a little. I didn't find it until my encode was just about finished. Hopefully, it won't cause any problems. I was careful not to clip too much where I am taking away any of the actual image.

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