problems burning VCD/SVCD with Toast 6

[supertoom]

everytime I try to burn a SVCD or VCD with toast 6 it fails after a couple of minutes. it works great if i use a CD-RW or trying in simulation mode. but when using a CD-R (MMore CD-R80, 1-52x) it fails! I've used these cd's for a long time, and it works great when burning audio-cd's. any clue why?

[galactica]

try burning something other than audio with these cd's and see if they work

this is very odd indeed

[supertoom]

I've burned som .dmg's, but that was with Apple's Disk Utility (or what ever it's called), and they worked great!

But maybe I shall try to burn a .dmg with Toast, I'll let you know how it goes.

[supertoom]

...and I've burned the same VCD (one that failed in Toast 6) with Toast 5.2.1, and it worked great! (Well first I had to extract the MPEG from the .bin file, and then add it to Toas, as you know Toast 5 can't burn .bin/.cue files.)

[ZeroSix]

FOA, Toast 5 can burn .bin files.

SOA, There are so many problems with Toast 6 that i dont even use it or recommend it for anyone. Toast 5 is the way to go!

W00t!

[supertoom]

hmm... ok, maybe it can.

as I wrote, the VCD burning problem was solved when I used Toast 5 instead. But I also have nine MPEG2-files I want to burn as a SVCD and that isn't easy done with Toast 5, is it? (not as easy as with Toast 6 anyway)

well I guess I have to stick with Toast 5 untill an update for Toast 6 is released.

[galactica]

and remember, no need to get Toast 6 just to burn svcd's
MMB and Firestarter work really well.... MMB is favorite, but you get the idea

[supertoom]

well I have both MMB and Firestarter... but I just can't get MMB to work, always some error msg. I like Firestarter... but in this case (the VCD) the format was .cue/.img and Firestarter can just handle .bin, not .img right?

To burn a SVCD with Firestarter, I guess I first have to generate .bin/.cue files and then burn them with FS, but that didn't work this time, don't know why. FS just failed when I clicked Burn. I tried some other .bin/.cue-files but that didn't work either. But I'm running a pre-release of Panther so maybe that's the problem.

I have nothing against FS, but in this case it would've been much easier just to drop the MPEG2's in Toast 6 and burn, rather than using a separate program just to generate the .bin/.cue-files and the burn with FS.

[ZeroSix]

Toast 6 like to re-encode everything though no matter what its format... can anyone / everyone confirm this?

Everytime i drop a compliant MPEG2 SVCD track onto it, it re-encodes. Same with MPEG1. It is stupid. Is there a workaround?

To burn SVCD using Toast 5, Just use VCDBuilder. It will generate the image files required, and launch Toast 5 automatically and make all the necessary adjustments to burn the images. [Changing to XA mode, etc.]

This is the easiest way I have found so far.

I think if we all gripe to Roxio and demand our money back or something we will see this problem resolved in Toast 6.1 maybe.

[galactica]

Toast 6 like to re-encode everything though no matter what its format... can anyone / everyone confirm this?

yes I can, sad isnt it!

[chikanakan]

Everytime i drop a compliant MPEG2 SVCD track onto it, it re-encodes. Same with MPEG1. It is stupid. Is there a workaround?

What is the exact bitrate of the audio and video on the file. My guess is the audio really isn't SVCD complient and that's why it gets encoded. Toast wants 224kbps. Are you using 224kbps or 192? If you are using anything less then 224, it will get re-encoded.

[ZeroSix]

it even wants to re-encode VCD MPEG1... I tested this by creating a VCD mpeg from Toast 5, ffmpegX, and cleaner... It is very stupid, time consuming and pointless if the streams are correct.

Sticking with Toast 5 for video until Roxio fixes this so called "enhancement"

[pusa]

HAHAHAHA.........."enhancement."

I just had to say that even though I'm using Toast 6.

[chikanakan]

it even wants to re-encode VCD MPEG1... I tested this by creating a VCD mpeg from Toast 5, ffmpegX, and cleaner... It is very stupid, time consuming and pointless if the streams are correct.

Sticking with Toast 5 for video until Roxio fixes this so called "enhancement"

Toast 5 MPEG were always way out of spec. You should seem them freak out the verifier

[supertoom]

ok, I just burned a .dmg with Toast 6 and it worked great, so it seems like it's just VCD/SVCD it can't handle with my CD-r's.... strange...

[chikanakan]

it even wants to re-encode VCD MPEG1... I tested this by creating a VCD mpeg from Toast 5, ffmpegX, and cleaner... It is very stupid, time consuming and pointless if the streams are correct.

Sticking with Toast 5 for video until Roxio fixes this so called "enhancement"

Also, Toast doesn't re-encode the content. It says "encoding" but it is actually just searching the file for scan info. If the audio/video gets re-encoded it is because the files are out of spec. I just tried it and my Toast 5 MPEG worked just fine. Only scanned, not encoded.

[AntnyMD]

The question then becomes what does Toast 6 consider an in-spec stream? I mean, it clearly disagrees with several other encoders that also encode to spec.

[major]

To burn SVCD images with Toast 6:

- choose "Copy",
- select "Multi track CD-ROM XA" from the left drawer
- click "Select",
- drag in the window which will appear the two .img files created with ffmpegX "Author as SVCD" or with VCD Builder.

[thorsted]

Toast 6 sucks for burning mpg files to VCD or SVCD. I thought it would be nice to use toast 6 so I don't have to make a .bin image first, but the first two times I tried there was a bad sync problem. Making the .mpg files into a .bin with VCDtoolsX and then burning them with MMB made perfect VCD's. On the other hand I took a bunch of quicktime trailers and used Toast 6 to encode and burn a SVCD. I must say I was quite impressed with quality and speed. Also no sync problems. I guess Toast 6 has some bugs that hopefully will be fix with the next updates.

weiheng

[ojedapaco]

it even wants to re-encode VCD MPEG1... I tested this by creating a VCD mpeg from Toast 5, ffmpegX, and cleaner... It is very stupid, time consuming and pointless if the streams are correct.

Sticking with Toast 5 for video until Roxio fixes this so called "enhancement"

The flip side of that, however, is that I was able to make a VCD of a muxed mpg file without having to manually de mux and remux. This is something I had never been able to do with Toast 5.x before!

Although, for files that are properly formatted, it would be nice if one could disable Toast forced encoding.