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  1. I have several 6 month old Princo's that I can't read anymore.
    They were sold from meritline and were called "DVD PRO" 1x disks

    They worked shortly after burning but then I put them away in their jewel case in an cabinet.
    Now they won't even load up in a dvd-rom drive, or my burner.

    So I lost the stuff I had on there...nothing important though.
    But it still pisses me off....anyone else experience that with any other brands or just princo?
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    Every disc that I've ever burned works to this day. All I've ever used really is Ritek G01, Ritek G03, Optodisc, Apple, Maxell, and Verbatium before they got "iffy".

    I think I remember someone saying that one of the Longten medias because unreadable, I think it was defence. Other then that its been all Princo that I've read.
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  3. I used a pack of 25 Princo's when I first started about six months ago. I recently check a few of them and they still playback without errors. Now all I use is Ritek, TDK, or CompUSA media.
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    BobW remember that some Compusa media is Prince anyway.
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  5. Originally Posted by flaystus
    BobW remember that some Compusa media is Prince anyway.
    I remember checking a few and I believe they were Leaddata disc but I could be wrong on that. Anyway I have yet to have any problems with the media.
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    Have you tried isobuster to see if that can read/ see if there is any info on the dvdr? you may be able to save the disk?
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  7. yep..flaystus is right..it was me..and I had a few long..ten disks become unreadable. Of course, that was no surprise to me from the results I saw from the beginning with those disks. The last formula is much better then the ones I used early on...others have started posts saying the same.

    But I FORTUNATELY, only used a hand full of them for personal use..the rest were strictly for testing.

    Bottom line is that it is NOT fiction...but rather, FACT that some disks can and WILL become unreadable..the question is..which ones? Well...just beware when you buy the disks...do a lot of research and testing initially and that should allow you to decide what disks are best for you.

    All my other disks are still readable. How do I know? Because I checked them all ....after the Long..Ten issues..I had no choice...I had to know...fortunately the rest appear to still be perfect. Of course, most of the rest of my disks are all high quality media.
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    I guess we need to come up with an accelerated aging test for disks. The difficult part is that these "corupt" while in dark storage.
    Hope is the trap the world sets for you every night when you go to sleep and the only reason you have to get up in the morning is the hope that this day, things will get better... But they never do, do they?
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  9. What is the color on the top of the Princo's? I have seen some forum posts about this and Princo. However 1x princos with the white tops seem to not have this problem. I have some that are 6month old and still play. Anyway I switched to Ritek GO3 just incase.
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  10. BobW remember that some Compusa media is Prince anyway.
    There are currently three manufacturers for CompUSA media. Princo, Lead Data, and Optodisc. Its surprisingly cheap for brick and mortor. I got a 50 pack because I really needed it for about $48. I figured I'd get a 66% of not getting Princo. It turned out to be Optodisc. Burned three, all work without any errors.
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    I have only one LongTen disc that is unplayable. The other LongTen discs play, but all save one, have various playback issues. Every single Princo disc that I've burned including my first many months ago play fine on my 2 settops.
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    I had LeadData (LD01) DVD-r die.
    Only Princo and CMC DVD-R errors are bad burns to start with.

    All of my CMC and Ritek CD-R media has died in past years.
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  13. hmmm.. I have some Maxell's I bought from the folks at Meritline 4 months ago that are no longer readable.?
    but they(MERITLINE) don't answer my questions? this sucks.
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  14. Virtually ALL of my Princo's I burned 6-8 months ago are now unreadable. All my movies and Xbox games went bad, only my pc 'data' discs can still be read (I'm guessing because my pc dvd drive is less picky then my xbox and dvd player). I'll never buy Princo again, I'm now a big Ritek fan!
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    My god ... I'm still using Princo's ... at least for about 6 month ... but they are still ok ...
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  16. I bought leda/princo from shop4tech about 6 months ago, as far as I know they all still work fine so far. Recently played a couple.
    Of course it's not when you bought them but when you burn them that probably starts the clock ticking!

    Unfortunately, I don't know what I burned first 6months ago, or just 2 months ago. I just know I burned em!

    At least I still have the origials just in case, just have to capture all over from start if I have a problem. However I just bought another 50! Waiting for UPS now!

    These are white top purple bottom 1x disks, listed as leda(princo).

    Test the non-working disks! Let them age more if need be, then try to burn over them again. Surely that would not work, but hey surely they should not go bad that fast either!

    If they have like a memory effect where they are going back to a blank unburned type state, who knows??
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  17. I had a Princo manufactured disc delaminate and the top "pop off" once, but that was the exception to the rule and down to extremely sh*tty manufacturing just before home time on a Friday on a rainy bank holiday weekend when the wind was blowing in the wrong direction with the moon going retrograde and the QA guy had just had an arguement with his girlfriend...

    In other words, I've never seen any other disc from any other manufacturer fall apart like that one did.

    Generally speaking I have no problems to report with Princo media other than the 4Gb safe limit on a few bad examples.
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  18. The Princos I had were silver top with lines for you to write something. which i never did out of fear it would damage the disk (ironic isn't it).

    I threw them away though...tried reading them in both my dvd-rom and my dvd burner...it just said "no media"..wouldn't even try to read it.

    The odd thing is I couldn't see a thing on the disk, no obvious signs of damage or discoloration.

    Since then I swore off using princos for all time.

    I'm mostly using Ritek G03 and G04's......
    I heard their CD-R's weren't so great...that sucks. I sure hope their DVD-R's last
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  19. I have a ritek G03 (Fujifilm) that I just burned about 2 weeks ago and worked perfectly then that fails to read about 1/3 of the way through. It's a DVD of 6 programs.

    I can't reach the last 4 shows through the menu, nor can I play the VOB files for those last 4 shows. DVDinfo says there's no read errors on the disk.

    I did write something on it with a Sharpie, could that have damaged it?
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    No sarcasm intended, but I think in the past few months there were a LOT of people who said they were assured that they would last "hunnerds" of years.

    I always thought it funny they told you it had a shelf life of 7 years, unburned, but would last 30 to 100 after you set up stresses by literally vaporizing the dyes used between the layers.

    Guess it's best to buy drives as you fill 'em up and burn a new disk every time one goes bad.

    Woe is us!!!

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  21. I would at least expect that the media would last until the next new technology came along, and it would be relatively easy to transfer the content.
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  22. Anyone ever have any 2x TDK DVD-R from Target go bad? Just wondering because this is all I have been using and these have been working great.

    Never a coaster or a bad burn.

    The TDK's have the picture of the 2 kids on em and say For General Use.

    Also I have used a few of my friends Verbatim DataLife DVD-R's... That show to be RITEKG03's that can only be burned at 1x... Anyone have problems with these, or this ok for shelf-life?

    We should conduct some studies and have a link on the site to that guide for shelf-life.
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  23. I had three khypermedia 1x dvd-r go bad after a couple months. Been using optodisk gold 4x and princo white top 4x since then. Minor problems with both, most likely due to conversion process with dvd shrink 3.0.
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    I had one go bad immediately. I backed up this movie
    my wife got, without watching it first.
    When I finally watched it really sucked
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    Foo :cD You are back to good mood & humor now. :c)

    You have another that went bad ... remember it?
    There's no place like 127.0.0.1
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    I spoze you mean the $7 science experiment ?
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    yeah :c)
    There's no place like 127.0.0.1
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    my dvd-r broke into the liquor cabinet and stole a car one time
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    my dvd-r broke into the liquor cabinet and stole a car one time
    LOL, that's priceless! :cD
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    I had the same problem with the Ritek Disc but they were the 1X disc that were burned at 2X on a Pioneer A05 that I flashed with the firmware to allow it to read and write at faster speeds. I wrote the 1X disks at 2X and played perfectly the first few times, but then started getting squirelly. Went back and re-recorded at the proper speed and now have no problems at all..
    Just be careful with your burning speeds and don't exceed the designed speed of the disk. If you want to write faster, you have to buy the faster disk
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