Is there ANY reason the buy a CD-R labeled audio ?

[jolo]

I have avoided media blank labeled Audio CD-R and never had any problems as far buring audio, video, data, etc. My backups of audio will play in portable CD players, etc.

For all practical purpuses, isn't the only different between audio CR-R and the ones not-listed as audio is that the RIAA gets a cut from the audio ones which consumers unwittingly pay for ?

[indolikaa]

An Audio CD Recorder will not engage into recording mode unless it sees the 'flag' found only on Audio CD-Rs. This guarantees you can only use discs where you've paid the appropriate royalties. Computer CD/DVD recorders are blind to this special flag.

That's the way the sales guy explained it to me a couple of years ago.

[jolo]

I have made hundreds of backups of my audio CDs without ever having a problem ? Maybe the software takes care of any nonsense that the RIAA tries to put in there.

I do know that RIAA gets a kick back for all audio CD-Rs sold and I also know that not a penny of that goes to any artists.

Jon

[vitualis]

If you own a stand-alone audio CD recorder, you must use the "audio" CD-Rs as standard ones won't work. There is otherwise no other reason to use these discs.

Regards.

[BobK]

I do know that RIAA gets a kick back for all audio CD-Rs sold and I also know that not a penny of that goes to any artists.

Are you sure? I don't know, but I remember back in the early 1980's the movie/TV industry tried to get Congress to put a fee on all blank video tapes and give to them as a royalty in case the tape was used to copy a copyrighted movie.

I don't remember if congress was smarter then and didn't pass the law, or if the courts ruled it illegal because blank tapes could be used to record many things that weren't copyrighted.

[jolo]

okay here it is. http://www.boycott-riaa.com/facts/facts.php
If I remember correctly, they also received money for blank cassettes.

"Every Music CDR since the AHRA was enacted has a hidden tax built into the price! (2% of the manufacturers sales) This is supposedly to pay the artists for home recording. Who Collects the Tax? The RIAA under the auspices of the AARC. Who shares office space with the RIAA and has many of the RIAA employees working for it. I haven't been able to find one artist that was paid a cent of the money.
4% is set aside for non-featured artists, of the remainder 40% for the featured artist and 60% for the labels. To date
I have not found one artist who has received one cent of this money. (Source: RIAA website) In addition every CD recorder has a $2.00 surcharge built into the price that goes directly to the RIAA The artists received not one cent of the money from the MP3.Com settlements of approx $158 Million to the labels. Who did??? The label themselves.
"SoundExchange" the new digital rights collective for collecting royalties from internet play is a division of the RIAA. They did not distribute royalties in July 2001 as they were supposed to do, but instead decided to wait until next year.
85% of all music is released by 5 major labels (Sony, EMI, UMG, Time Warner, & BMG) Federal Trade Commission (FTC Statement)
At any given point about 20% of the music every recorded is available legally. The rest is locked away by the labels depriving the creators of a potential source of income, the fans of the music they want, while creating a false market for the band "d'jour."

Jon

[holistic]

If you own a stand-alone audio CD recorder, you must use the "audio" CD-Rs as standard ones won't work. There is otherwise no other reason to use these discs.

Regards.

Not Necessarily . I read somewhere where you can do the following with a standalone CD recorder.

+ place 'audio' CD in drive
+ press RECORD - PAUSE
+ with record function paused, eject disk
+ place el cheepo standard CD in drive
+ press pause or whatever it takes to get it back into record mode.

**** if this does work please report findings.

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edit : found this whilst 'googling' - it may or may not help.
http://www.mail-archive.com/audities@binhost.com/1999-month-01/msg00726.html

[BobK]

If I remember correctly, they also received money for blank cassettes.

They may have. I didn't really keep up with it, but I do remember that at one point around 1982-83 or 84 that it was ruled they wouldn't get money for blank cassettes. It could have changed after that.

[jolo]

Bobk and Holitic,
So much confusion with the propaganda machine in full force for the RIAA. I hope all of you know that these "pirates", "criminals", "thieves" are guilty of price fixing over a number of years by making the cost of records and CDs be about $5 more than stores wanted to sell them. They got together and artificially raised the prices.
I think the past is even more outrageous than the present with them. Before there was a strong technology presence to fight against them, they did want to make VCRs, Cassettes illegal.
The best source and I hope all consumers and artists alike get together and support sites like http://www.boycott-riaa.com/.

Some pretty good articles, this from CNN talks about how close we came to never having VCRs, which of course the MIAA makes a fortune off, but was against. [url]ttp://gareth.membrane.com/leflawnet/072800d.html/url]

I do know that there were fees on cassettes and the RIAA WAS successful on not allow the technology of cassettes to develop, like to use of DAT tape to distribute music. I would say that for the facts, without the spin, start with http://www.boycott-riaa.com/, and you can check out links from there, actual filed legal papers, etc.
Remember friends, as much as the RIAA has screwed consumers, it ain't nothing to what they have done to artists.

Jon

[energy80s]

If you own a stand-alone audio CD recorder, you must use the "audio" CD-Rs as standard ones won't work. There is otherwise no other reason to use these discs.

Regards.

Not Necessarily . I read somewhere where you can do the following with a standalone CD recorder.

+ place 'audio' CD in drive
+ press RECORD - PAUSE
+ with record function paused, eject disk
+ place el cheepo standard CD in drive
+ press pause or whatever it takes to get it back into record mode.

**** if this does work please report findings.

This trick usually needs a kitchen knife to work, as the drive won't stay in record pause when you eject the disc, so you have to "force" it out!

[vitualis]

Don't don't see that as quite a standard thing...

I remember seeing articles when audio CD-Rs first came (and the ?Philips Audio CD-R recorder) that you could "mod" the recorder so that it would accept standard CD-R discs...

Regards.