GeForce FX vs. Ti vs. ATI with VIVO

[Piccoro]

hmm GeForce 4 MX
Remote is the same thing as in AIW.
Old technology, copy-cat idea. Nice Try Nvidia.
Only good thing about it is in some models of the GF4 MX w/tv tuner, they have the possibility of dual monitors unlike ATI AIW cards.
But seriously, the ATI 8500 AIW wins here.
Both capture and 3d games.

[cangrejitoplayero]

is possible capture video with the Ati Multimedia Center using my GeForce TI 4600?

[g2k3000_3000]

With the AIW or the NVIDIA Personal Cinema, is it like having a second TV when you connect a cable through the RF port? Is it possible to watch different channels on the Computer and on the TV?

[Piccoro]

Yes, they have a tv tuner. Just like a TV. They have software that can view/change the channels. But do not even consider the NVIDIA Personal Cinema. plz no lol

[LanEvo7]

Nvidia is pretty bad with TV. The AIW 8500 isn't a good choice. The card is graphics chipset is outdated. If you are a gamer that keeps up with ut2k, doom 3, etc, that card is like decent - bad for those games. Get Ti4200 or the FX5600 Ultra, not the non-ultra. Or better yet get the AIW 9700 non pro.

[g2k3000_3000]

Is there another card with a TV tuner like the AIW 9000 pro, but has better gaming performance? It would be best if its in the $250 range.

[LanEvo7]

Nope, just get a seperate TV Tuner and a seperate video card. Thats your best bet.

Get this: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=TV+LEADTEK+WINFAST+%22

and this: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=14-131-221&depa=0

You are spending less than $200 for both. Great for gaming and capturing.

[g2k3000_3000]

Is it possible to stay away from 2 cards? I rather have one card that does everything....eventhough the quality might not be as great...

[LanEvo7]

You are either going to have to settle for worse gaming or worse capturing. Pick your poison.

[Piccoro]

Or more money (AIW 9700).
I can see you have your heart set on both. I would either get the 5600 now or save money for 9700 AIW(perfered). I would think an AGP capture card (AIW)would be best since AGP is 66hz vs pci at 33hz. But ive only seen the ATI AIW 9700(non-pro) for bout 300$ USD online unless u could find a sale.
BTW if you have ever seen these around.
Their setup
They use a old Asus GeForce card with tuner for these captures. Look pretty good for such an old card.

[g2k3000_3000]

Whats my best bet for a video card that has a TV tuner other than the AiW9700 because I can't afford that just yet? Would it be the AiW9000 or is there another card better than that?

[gavmiester]

The old asus card is good....especially if you can find one with svid in and out,(I still have one lying around as I cant part with it)...
I'd stay clear of the geforce 5000 line up...most are pretty ordinary as far as bang for buck is concerned. Lash out and get your games card either a Radeon or an older Ti card if you are being cheap......save your bucks and then buy an advc50/100 for your capture......my 5 cents worth (in Austraila, we always have to pay more, even for opinions.....)

[g2k3000_3000]

Is the Sapphire version ALL-IN-WONDER® RADEON™ 9000 PRO any good? I heard its DX9 compatible. Is there any review on this card?

[txpharoah]

Is the Sapphire version ALL-IN-WONDER® RADEON™ 9000 PRO any good? I heard its DX9 compatible. Is there any review on this card?

Very good.

[g2k3000_3000]

Where can I find a review for this card: http://www.sapphiretech.com/vga/9000pro-beast.asp?

This is the 128MB version of the AiW9000pro that is DX9 Compatible...

[Piccoro]

Here's a review on a plan old ATI 9000 64mb card.
Here's a review on a ATI 9000 AIW card made by ATI

[g2k3000_3000]

With the AiW cards, does the TV tuner still work if I have satellite TV instead of cable TV? They both use the coax cable, but may have a different signal and I'm just wondering if the TV tuner is compatible with Satellite TV?

[txpharoah]

With the AiW cards, does the TV tuner still work if I have satellite TV instead of cable TV? They both use the coax cable, but may have a different signal and I'm just wondering if the TV tuner is compatible with Satellite TV?

There are no tuners than natively read DSS or digital cable. You need to plug the coax from the dish into the receiver, then out from the receiver into the computer, and then set tuner to channel 3.

You can also use the RCA out from receiver and put into the tuner.

Or put coax into VCR that is also used to record from, thus eliminating need to switch cables from DSS to VCR when recording. The DSS or VHS tapes will both be on the RCA or s-video inputs, being covered up when a tape is played.

[g2k3000_3000]

There are no tuners than natively read DSS or digital cable. You need to plug the coax from the dish into the receiver, then out from the receiver into the computer, and then set tuner to channel 3.

By what you have said, if I use a 2 way splitter and plug one of the coax in to my 53"TV and the other into the Aiw9000pro all comming out from the satellite reciever, then would I be able to watch different channels on my TV and on the computer? In other words, would it be like have a second receiver if I have a TV tuner in the Video card?

[txpharoah]

By what you have said, if I use a 2 way splitter and plug one of the coax in to my 53"TV and the other into the Aiw9000pro all comming out from the satellite reciever, then would I be able to watch different channels on my TV and on the computer? In other words, would it be like have a second receiver if I have a TV tuner in the Video card?

No. You cannot split a satellite signal.

In fact, forget everything you know about conventional video when talking DSS/digital cable. The sat system just use the same wires (coax, but even then only RG6). That's where it stops being the same.

You'd need to have a multiplexer in the attic or another cable coming off the LNB. And even then, you need a receiver for EACH connection. So no. What you see on the tv would be the same thing you'd see on the computer tuner. That's the way it works. If you need dedicated signal to your computer, call your service, and arrange for a second install, but it'll cost you more per month. If you're still confused, call your provider.

The TV tuner is for regular cable and broadcast signals ONLY.