Ritek G03 w/ logo

[edplayer]

anyone use these yet: http://www.allmediaoutlet.com/P-DVD-R-4.7-RITEK-LOGO.html

was wondering if I should try these over the "regular" G03s. Seems like some places are running out of the regular ones (meritline and rima). Rima wrote me saying that they are switching more production over to 4x media and the production schedule (for 1x) has been unstable.

[disturbed1]

Rima has Samsung 1x media for $1.25. All silver topped.

[txpharoah]

Rima has Samsung 1x media for $1.25. All silver topped.

I don't like silver-topped or gold-topped discs (as that means the discs have no protective coatings), so I myself just purchased the newest coated Riteks from AllMediaOutlet.

My older coated Riteks, when they existed, were great discs. I think these will be too. Can't wait for them to arrive.

[edplayer]

thats what they recommended. I read up some on the Bealls here (I guess its different, my take is that meritline is the exclusive supplier but others have posted that they have the same info, correct?). But this order is for my dad and he has only used the Riteks so far and he is kinda weary of switching. His first batch was Khypermedia (bought at Microcenter), out of 10 discs like 6 or 7 were totally bad and the rest had problems at the end of the disc!

[rob1]

I just ordered some of the Ritek branded 4x (1.65 ea. in a 100 bulk order from allmediaoutlet, free ground shipping). Probably dumb to order that many off the bat, but my unbranded Ritek 4x actually have been out performing the Bealls I had. The unbranded Riteks only burn at 2x in my Sony, but even if the branded 4x burn at 2x I figure that's a decent price for media I'm coming to trust. I haven't run into problems with the Ritek like I have with the Bealls. If they DO burn at 4x (and I'm not going to screw with the firmware in an effort to force the issue), I'm going to order 200 the next time!

And if they suck, I'm going to cry.

[disturbed1]

I guess its different, my take is that meritline is the exclusive supplier but others have posted that they have the same info, correct

Wrong

In business, a retail store (Meritline, Rima, etc) buys in large quantity from a distributor, or market rep.

Meritline buys from the only US authorized Samsung distributer. Either Rima buys from the same distributer, or from Meritline's parent company Comtree.

Rima will start to cary the new 4x Samsung media in a few days/weeks. The Accu media from Meritline, is the exact same media as the DupEz. They are also bought from the same distributors/reps.

I don't like silver-topped or gold-topped discs (as that means the discs have no protective coatings), so I myself just purchased the newest coated Riteks from AllMediaOutlet.

My older coated Riteks, when they existed, were great discs. I think these will be too. Can't wait for them to arrive.

Man that's nothing but a load of crap! You claim to have had real Maxell discs that had no branding, these discs are silver topped with a clear coat. Verbatim has the same type disc. Since you tell us you work for some large multimedia company, you should easily be able to add part #635037 to your next order.

Your claims are totally biased, with an uneducated response, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't respond to my posts with such B.S. If I wanted your unprofessional oppinion I'd ask for it.

By the way those aren't coated Riteks. They are the same uncoated Riteks with a silkscreen across parts of the top. If you think that can't be scratched through, then why are you worried about the 1.2mm of top plastic protecting the recording layer of all discs coated or not as per DVD-R for gerneral spec revision 2.0?

[edplayer]

where else can I buy Beall from? I wonder why they put "exclusive from meritline" on the site?

[disturbed1]

It's not totally false. Meritline's parent company is rather large, and has a few different divisions.

My best guess is that Comtree maybe the only US company to import the Samsung brand, Comtree may then unload large qty's of it's stock to other venders. Most media retailer's buy in skid lots, Comtree probably does it by the container. (A container is a huge cargo holder the size of a semitruck's trailer, common for overseas shipping).

Exclusive could have a different meaning in the business world than it does to us. To me it would mean that only Meritline has, and only Meritline sells Samsung media. But we know this isn't the case. Then again, maybe Meritline sells directly to the other venders? You'd have to ask Meritline to get the full story. When the media first became available, Meritline was the first and only one to carry it though.

http://www.cdrom2go.com/optical_media/dvdr.asp#samsung-kit sells the Samsung media. This company deals directly with Comtree for many of it's products.

[txpharoah]

Man that's nothing but a load of crap! You claim to have had real Maxell discs that had no branding, these discs are silver topped with a clear coat. Verbatim has the same type disc. Since you tell us you work for some large multimedia company, you should easily be able to add part #635037 to your next order. Your claims are totally biased, with an uneducated response, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't respond to my posts with such B.S. If I wanted your unprofessional oppinion I'd ask for it.

For starters, nobody died and made you king. Judging from your mouth, I'd hold a mirror up to your own face before calling somebody unprofessional. Where do you come off thinking you run this thread?

You're a nice guy normally with good information. Why the sudden attack? Bad day? Anyhow...

I've had dozens of variations of DVD media, if not hundreds. Sorry, I haven't counted them one by one over these past few years.

Fact: discs that are ONLY silver or ONLY gold on top DO NOT have a screenprinted extra coating. They may have some glaze crap on top, but give them a good thump with a fingernail (which is about the same impact of a dropped disc or a thump against the dvd drive or tv) and they'll scratch much easier. The pretty pictures on top from the disc out of Hollywood (as well as my own company) are not the ONLY reason professional discs come completely slathered in ink. It's protective too. For pro use, the uncoated discs are perfectly fine. You print on them. For home use, that's entirely unacceptable unless you have your own screenprinting setup. Some people try to use labels, however on DVD, that's not acceptable either, as it corrupts the discs in most cases.

Hold up any purchased DVD and look at how the ink forms a plateau above the actual silver layer of the pressed disc. This is best seen near the inner ring of the disc, as some companies print to the outermost edges of the disc. Rub your finger along it and feel the raised surface made by the ink where it separates from the silver/gold surface. Now hold up an uncoated Ritek. See that? Your top is the valley of the plateau from the coated discs. Holy crap! That must mean there is NO PROTECTIVE COATING on the uncoated silver-topped and gold-topped discs!

I've had 3 "Maxells" in my day.
1. The printed ones from the stores. Worked great. Not my favorites, but since Pioneer is out of business, I've learned to live with them. The newest variations of Apple 2x discs are also now Maxell. The 4x appear to still be Mitsubishi.
2. Off brand crap from Hong Kong. These were called "PULSE" DVD-R and are crap with fake Maxell logos and media IDs. The discs are 1x with forged 2x media codes. Had one or two others with similar situations. These were freebies (I get lots of free media to test), so I'm not crying about it.
3. That silver-topped junk from meritline.com has been identified by Maxell as fake media. If they were lying to me or if I got some idiot on the phone, maybe, but I asked for the guy's manager just to be certain. Several others on this site also seem to have called and complained/inquired on the unbranded Maxell situation.

Verbatim does have the 'same kind' of disc, however all I have ever seen from them is white-topped or pre-labeled for inkjet printing. The white pastel coating is just one more (albeit thinner than thermal) coating layer before you start to hit the data. If they have silver-topped or gold-topped ones too, then I stand corrected, but that doesn't matter. These kinds of discs were never meant for home use, but rather for professional/industrial use that would later have screenprinted or otherwise printed material on top to give them that extra coating NEEDED to insure the lifetime of the media. That's why they never were and never will be sold in the stores. CD-Rs rarely came uncoated in stores. And Verbatim confirms that these are their official products, whereas Maxell either doesn't know or has confirmed them as fake (just all depends on how you want to judge the phone calls that have been placed).

Talk to a media consultant at a media-production company. He/she should be able to confirm this. Just pick your favorite media company and give them a call. Uncoated discs were never meant for home use, though they gladly sell to whoever wants them.

As for the Riteks with LOGOS, those are home-use discs. They come with a coating that can be written on, and will provide a much longer life than the uncoated silver-topped and gold-topped discs made by Ritek, at least in conditions when the blanks tops do not receive the extra secure coatings by means of being professionally printed on.

And I love the argument of "well, I just take good care of my discs" as if he/she is perfect and has never dropped anything in his/her life or never had an accident of any kind at any point in time. Sure. I believe that. Apparently the production world doesn't. We coat the media you buy. Why? Because we know you'll drop one eventually, and it doesn't cost that much extra to put a pretty picture on top to protect you.

And I work for a media company, not a multimedia company. Multimedia is video games and non-mainstream brain-frying junk.

[disturbed1]

I really think you need to check your self here.

Time to count the errors.

1.) Thread? I said my post. Which was directly quoted by you.

2.)

with a fingernail (which is about the same impact of a dropped disc or a thump against the dvd drive or tv) and they'll scratch much easier

Through 1.2mm of hard plastic? How come CDs don't do this? CDs have a thinner top plastic coat.

3.)

1. The printed ones from the stores. Worked great. Not my favorites, but since Pioneer is out of business, I've learned to live with them. The newest variations of Apple 2x discs are also now Maxell. The 4x appear to still be Mitsubishi.

No Shit Sherlock. I was the one who told you that. Considering that you work for a "Media" company, you'd think you would of known that. You came back with the lame ass reason, that the stack of Apples you have are a year old Would you like the link to the thread?

4.)

And I work for a media company, not a multimedia company. Multimedia is video games and non-mainstream brain-frying junk.

Now which is it? Here's a quote from another thread you posted,

Scenarist is one of the tools I could use at work (though it's heavy learning curve is not something I want to tackle - I have employees for a reason). We call them video engineers.

Sounds not only like multimedia, but that you own it? I have employees I thought you were in law? Or was that something else? You did know Scenarist was considered a Mulitmedia Authoring Application didn't you? Of course you did you own the company!

Your full of it.

Can I be a big boy too


One more thing, since you work for a "media" company, how come you didn't know that the cheap Maxell's are real Maxell's, produced by an OEM maker of their discs? My distributor informed me, and passed the savings along at $.79 each, while informing me that the quality was less. Considering you work in "media" thought you'd know that.

BTW I have 630 Verbatim Data Life Plus stairing me in the face, know what, they're uncoated too, wonder if they will still honor the lifetime warranty?

[defense]

All I have to say is if "anyone" got teary eyed reading this post....please nod your head @Disturbed, you really did break it down to the forum's Guru. I think it was obvious from my posts to the guru, my concern was not for their ignorance of the Guru, but for the misrepresentation of facts which have been spewed incorrectly on a number of occasions.

It's one thing to do it here and there, but another to do it on every post. You've backed up your post with facts, while the Guru could only stretch and reach for you saying "multimedia" instead of media. Very sad that someone would have to reach for something so minute, when the topic of the post had to do with the facts. But I guess there is nothing wrong with nit-picking, unless, of course it is me that had to correct the Guru on how to spell "THREE LETTER WORDS." I guess I really was nit-picking.


@txpharoah, I think it's time to really cut the crap. You are more full of shit then a constipated horse and your brain is as rattled as a 2 year old retarded kid. You continuously post mularky and you continue to contradict yourself. You were first praising APPLE AND ONLY APPLE, until someone on the board informed THE GURU APPLE doesn't make their disks anymore..PIONEER does. What a stunner that was for the GURU, heh?

Then you bashed ACCU, RITEK, PRINCO, etc..etc....and most recently you have said that RITEK AND PRINCO ARE GREAT DISKS AS WELL AS ARE OPTODISKS! WHICH ONE IS IT?

Listen Pharoah, my guess is that you manufacturer the cake boxes for blank media...but stop trying to be the self-proclaimed genius in every single subject. And stop spewing erronious facts and inconsistancies with your statements....it's already pathetic enough. ..Thanks in advance

[LanEvo7]

I'm glad to see other poster's pointing out Mr.Expert shortfalls. Tell me tx, do you have any truthful facts that can be backed up with concrete sources? [/b]

[txpharoah]

Disturbed1, I don't know why you've got this sudden urge... but I'm surely going to respond to this...

Anyway, what I use at work and what I do at home are different. I work in media relations. I'm sorry none of you understand what that entails. It's pretty damned encompassing, from print to video to broadcast to corporate leadership to media law.

Yes, disturbed1, you pointed out the new Apple discs to me. I use those at home, not work, and given I used backstock for so long, didn't keep on top of the newest variations, or the change from Pioneer to Mitsubishi to Maxell. Sue me. I missed the Mistu one altogether, going from Pioneer to Maxells.

Again, multimedia is ENTERTAINMENT and other non-mainstream bastardizations of media techniques that attempt to call themselves media. Movies and video games fall into this lot.

Media is everything you deal with on a normal basis, from tv to newspapers to magazines to advertisements. I work with media in a media relations position. I don't work in Hollywood, but my broadcast techniques do come in handy and are used there as well. I don't own the company, but I do have employees. Upper management hires its employees, not the CEO. (Edit: for the ignorants down below, that means I'm upper management, as I hire my own employees. I am not the CEO, nor would I want to be.)

A lifetime warranty on a disc isn't worth shit if you lose the data. Great, they replace it with another blank. Big deal. The data is the important part, not the piece of plastic full of dye and metal foil.

And being in the business, you should know what was and what was NOT made for home consumption. The uncoated discs were for you and me to use at work. The intention and understanding is that they will later receive screenprinting or other means of protection. Since people cannot do this themselves at home, media makers do it for them, usually sticking their big fat logo on top, though some are nice enough to just use bland color and maybe only the words 'DVD-R'.

... and it's amazing how schmucks pack together like wolves and other unsavory creatures...

Defense is either in high school or college. Read kid, read. MOST Princo and MOST Ritek are bad. That can change as new product comes out. The new branded ones came out, I like these. The end. Since you're still harping on spelling, then go make that PHP spelling plugin for Baldrick.

LanEvo likes to only hear himself. That's fine. He wants me to do his research for free. Fat chance on that. Do it yourself, my friend.

... and getting back to THIS POST and THIS TIME... the RITEK COATED discs shown here should be pretty good. I just order 100 4x -R of them, and should be happy. The oldest Riteks I have are fine, at least the coated version. The uncoated ones either have scratches or burn errors because you can see right through them.

[defense]

Pharoah since Disturbed already put you in your place with presenting the "FACTS."

MOST Princo and MOST Ritek are bad.

Show me A SINGLE POST OF ANYONE complaining about RITEK disks other then you. You had some media issues with CD's YEARS AGO and you continue to say that affects DVD's which completely misconstrues the truth and the facts.

Your last post, I mean "BOOK" which, I guess was your "REBUTTAL" Jr. Matlock..presented ZERO...I REPEAT..ZERO FACTS! Talk about the facts disturbed mentioned regarding the 1.2mm's of plastic your fingernail can damage....talk about the fact that you've said anything CHEAP..(and you've referred to CHEAP AS IN "PRICE" as in your signature)....is GARBAGE AND JUNK and you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! So if that is the case, why are so many people gettings all types of disks for less then $1.25 but yielding EXCELLENT RESULTS WITH HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS?

Answer these questions Pharoah...answer why you've bashed Princo and Ritek and ACCU, but when THE "GURU" orders them and tries them for themselves and low and behold they work...you want to change your tune. I could get your posts if you'd like showing where you've said nothing but APPLE AND PIONEER ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE 'GURU"....and other posts where you've bashed all those other non branded disks....then show countless other posts where you LOVE PRINCO AND YOU LOVE OPTODISK AND YOU LOVE RITEK!

The facts are here Pharoah..stop trying to perplex people with your "BOOK" type posts...you are only confusing yourself. Try once in a while to show some facts to support the garbage you spew and falsely post...starting with this very post right here!

[LanEvo7]

LanEvo likes to only hear himself. That's fine. He wants me to do his research for free. Fat chance on that. Do it yourself, my friend.

In other words, you have no proof and lieing through your teeth.

[troyvcd1]

Wow this is crazy. I am just trying to read about some information about what media to buy. I dont know txpharoh but he is just stating some facts as he sees them and you got these other people attacking him. Why, I dont know. It sounds to me like some other people bought some silver topped media and suddenly realize that it aint so good.

[dc91gt]

Well I'm certainly not reading all the babbling in this thread...

however, I only use Ritek G03's. "Well over" 100 burned and not single
coaster.

I get them from supermediastore.com.

-d

[w00tski]

just curious but why does it even matter if dvd's have a protective coating on them or not? DVD's arent like cd-r's, the actual die is sandwiched inbetween 2 thin layers of polycarbonate plastic whereas CD-R's the die was right under the label where you write on it... so what gives with dvd's? they arent constructed the same and i dont really see how a protective coat of whatever is really doing anything since the dye is already protected by the plastic.
Most of my dvd's sit in a cool-ish room so its not like they have to brave the elements of the earth....

[Faustus]

w00tski this is what I always assumed, but there seems to be much debate one way or the other. I'm not gonna swear to know for sure one way or the other, but I can say i've not had any problems myself.

Actually I posted a Poll about this just the other day...

[That_Kid]

I have to agree with the majority. I have burned well over 500 uncoated ritek G03s. Never had any playback problems because of scratching either surface. Mind you I am not the most careful of people with disks either. They are stored in huge CD books and thrown about everywhere. Who knows, maybe I'm just really lucky. <Shrug>

[disturbed1]

TX, first off boy, I don't really have the time to debate facts with an uneducated imbecile such as yourself.

multimedia: Pertaining to the processing and integrated presentation of information in more than one form, e.g., video, voice, music, or data.

This is the definition of multimedia from the American National Standards. Since you have claimed that the place you work for creates multimedia projects such as DVD, this qualifies the company as a multimedia company.

Since your the CEO, can you tell us the name of the company so we can verify that you do work for it?

Defense is either in high school or college

Is this because he seems more educated than you? CEO? Come on, do you expect anybody to believe that bullshit? A CEO of a Media company that swears by an ATI AIW? Look, even if you shoveled shit for $2.00/hr you could still be our friend. Just cut the bullshit.


I find it personally apauling that you would consider yourself a professional. A CEO that has no clue of the operations of a buisness procedure. Your painting a bad picture for my, and others on the forum's industry. Please stop.

To be a CEO you would have to have a minimum of a Bachelors degree. You barely meet the requirements for a GED.