NTSC Film.....

[quickprelude]

Seems like every divx i come accross is NTSC Film. When go through the tutorials to make a VCD out of it, it doesnt seem to play in my DVD player(which plays other VCDs that I have made in the past) Is it the frame rates of the NTSC Film (23,970 fps) which wont allow it to play in my DVD player (which im sure is reg NTSC (29,970 fps)? In the tutorial it said that you can switch the template to NTSC but i tried that and my audio didnt line up. Has anyone come accross this before?

[Laddydaddy]

NTSCfilm at 23.97fps is valid for a VCD. It shouldn't be the framerate causing your problem. What happens when you try to play the disc? Do you get an error message.? If you do, what does it say?

[Vejita-sama]

For a 23.976fps you need to either run pulldown on your encoded MPEG, check the 2:3 pulldown box in TMPGenc, or use TMPGenc 'VCD Film' template.

You are correct that TVs can only display 29.97fps (interlaced) video. However the DVD player can telecide your 23.976fps video on the fly to 29.97fps when flagged.

[adam]

Well Vejita-sama he's making VCDs so the 3:2 pulldown doesn't apply. Using the NTSCfilm VCD template will definitely work, but so will simply setting the output fps to 23.976fps.

[quickprelude]

NTSCfilm at 23.97fps is valid for a VCD. It shouldn't be the framerate causing your problem. What happens when you try to play the disc? Do you get an error message.? If you do, what does it say?

it just says "please insert disk"

i burnt the vcd the same way as the ones in the past (with nero) but these have not worked thus far. could it be media? im using memorex cdr's when in the past they were fuji cdr's. any more input here would be appreciated.

[Don2050]

media is definately a possible cause of your error...in fact judging by your specific error it sounds as though that is in fact the case......

[quickprelude]

media is definately a possible cause of your error...in fact judging by your specific error it sounds as though that is in fact the case......

so is fuji cdr media better than the memorex that i used? i thought memorex was a good brand?

so what you guys are saying is that, even tho i made a NTSC Film mpg, the dvd player will still be able to translate that to NTSC and play it correctly? also, if i did convert that to regular NTSC....what is involved with that so my audio will match up? thanks....

[Laddydaddy]

Memorex makes very good cdrs. I've made plenty of vcds and svcds without a problem. Still it wouldn't hurt to try another brand. Some DVD players may be "picky" about the media they recognize. Try using the Fuji cdrs since they were successful before. See if that helps.

[quickprelude]

is there a way for me to know if my Sony DVD player prefers one brand media over the next? Also, does burn speed have anything to do with it? I burned previous ones at 16x and had no readability problems, but now its not working. Should i also try using VCDeasy instead of Nero?

[corob4]

is there a way for me to know if my Sony DVD player prefers one brand media over the next? Also, does burn speed have anything to do with it? I burned previous ones at 16x and had no readability problems, but now its not working. Should i also try using VCDeasy instead of Nero?

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yes there is a way to tell: 1 try diffrent types (costs $)
2 on the left <<<< under {dvd players} search your player and see what other users have found works well in your player. most people put in what types of video's work and usally what brands worked and didnt
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as for the error i would use the 3:2 pulldown avalible
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/software2.htm
under the heading > Support Utils > DoPulldown
you can try to use that to fix your problem without rencodeing

if it dont work your best to rencode with tempg and use the templates or make on of your own.
if its 23.97 i useally just do the pulldown and or rencode it all with tmpg to ntsc , i use tempg for video and audio ( i know most dont recomend it here) but i have rarely had a issue when changeing frame rate by doing both with tempg.
some will say one is better than the other, but ... what ever works for you and solves the issue is the way to go

best to experiment will a 10-15 min part of the movie and see how it is..

as for nero , i personaly rarely use it anymore, mostly vcdeasy and tscv to burn and add chapters and motion menus.

[adam]

Again, the 3:2 pulldown is only used on mpeg2, not mpeg1. He is making a VCD so he needs only encode at 23.976fps and it will automatically be telecined to 29.97fps on playback on any VCD compatible DVD player. If he were to attempt to add pulldown flags to his mpeg1 stream it would most likely result in a non-compliant VCD.

quickprelude: I strongly advocate using VCDEasy over Nero. Its much better, both in terms of functionality as well as compatibility. Generally, if you run into playback problems than slowing down the burn can help. Basically burn as fast as you can get away with.

[quickprelude]

thanks guys.....i just read up on my DVD player and it says that those fuji's (believe it or not) is the best pick for my DVD player. I think i might try buying more of them before i change what i am doing in my encoding process. i will keep you guys updated!

[quickprelude]

well.....i went out and bought some Fuji media and my VCDs work again in my DVD player. i read up in the player section under my player and it said it likes the fuji. thanks for all the input guys.....stupid media

[FulciLives]

well.....i went out and bought some Fuji media and my VCDs work again in my DVD player. i read up in the player section under my player and it said it likes the fuji. thanks for all the input guys.....stupid media

FUJI brand CD-R media is the only kind of CD-R that my Pioneer DVD player will work with on a consistant basis. It is the only brand I buy now.

I have also used FUJI brand DVD-R discs and so far they seem to be great although they cost about $2.50 each plus tax but they do burn at 2x and seem to be of very high quality.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
A friend of mine has a Philips stand alone CD recorder that uses the music type of CD-R discs and after trying several brands he agress with me that FUJI is the best.