NTSC/NTSC Film: Compatability?

[bebopdeluxe]

Hi all, I have a file which shows as 29.976fps which according to the guide is NTSC Film, Nero immediately tells me it is not a proper VCD file. My question is this, should this play in a stand-alone DVD player as would any other VCD or do I have to convert it to 29.97fps?

[bebopdeluxe]

That should be 23.976 fps, sorry.

[markc32]

it might play but vcd and svcd standards state 29.97fps.

I tried an SVCD of ntsc film in my player and it played - but was too jerky.

Stick with ntsc using pulldown

[sterno]

Actually I think NTSCFilm is a legal frame rate for VCD, but from what I've heard a lot of DVD players in the PAL part of the world can't play it. Multi-standard (PAL+NTSC) players are pretty common in Europe, but some of them only support VCDs at 30fps and not 24fps.

[SingSing]

Hi all, I have a file which shows as 29.976fps which according to the guide is NTSC Film, Nero immediately tells me it is not a proper VCD file.

Many of us have made film rate VCD and SVCD. If Nero said it is not proper, it cannot be due to film rate video. You should check the audio bit rate, it isanother possible reason.

[bebopdeluxe]

Thanks for your replies, here is the video data
Content: Video and Audio
Duration: 1 hr 7 min 53 sec
Data Rate: 1405 kbps (ave)
Video Info: 352 x 240, 23.976 fps
Audio Info: 44100 Hz, 229.4 kbps, stereo

Audio Format: MPEG-1 Layer 2

Should I be ok to just burn as VCD and ignore the Nero warning, or should I re-encode for a stand alone player?

[tonyp12]

Data Rate: 1405 kbps (ave)

Is that the averge Video bitrate?

Nero will try to re-encode that as it is not the standard CBR 1150.

Just ignore the nero waring and do a test disc,
it may turn out your DVD player can not handle XVCD.

[vitualis]

As what the others have said.

Your video clip appears to have a higher than standard video bitrate. I suggests that you make an "XVCD" with it and see if that works in your player...

BTW: as sterno stated, NTSC-FILM (i.e., 23.976 fps) is a valid VCD framerate. Interestingly enough, PAL support (i.e., 25 fps) was only officially added in VCD2.0! However, not all stand-alone players will play back FILM framerates well.

Regards.

[bebopdeluxe]

Thank you all for your info and suggestions, informative as usual!