I am having a difficult time digitizing VHS, could use some help/guiddance

[F9zVHS]

Hello everyone. I could use some help. I am also willing to donate to this site for the assistance. Thank you in advance.

Quick background. I had previously digitized my VHS before using composite, same sharp and panasonic before. After some trial and error, I was able to do it perfectly with little to no issue. But I stupid self lost those copies and I need to re do them. I got a hold of a SVHS and was hoping to do it this time with Svideo.

My set up.
JVC HR-S3902u (yes I know, low end but I am using this for the S-Video)
Panasonic ES10

I also have a Sharp VCR which is pretty good for a composite VCR which I used previously.

Update, I was using a 64x virtual dub. Switching to 32x (x86). Testing now

I am using a Hauppauge HVR-1800, which has worked perfectly in the past for this.

I am using virtual dub.

Issue 1, it appears as if it's creating more video than there is audio. Video will run for an hour and a half. But the audio will be out of sync somewhere in the middle of the recording and there would be no audio at the last 5-10 min of the video. I've tried these settings: Capture - Timing : Default which is General options, nothing selected (no drop frames when... and insert null frame", Resync Mode: Default, Sync audio to video by resampling the audio to faster or slower rate. I've also done it the other way, where under General Options, I have drop frames and insert frames when capture frames too far apartt, and for resync mode, set it to Sync video to audio by adjusting video timing.

Some of the other issues I am experiencing. Audio will be too fast, sounds like chipmunks or it will be to SLLLOOOOWWWW. This doesn't happen all the time, just random. However, when I switched back to composite using the sharp vcr, I experience this issue severely!

This set up has worked in the past. What am I doing wrong? I tried using GROK ffor assistance and tried what it recommended but ultimate did not work.

Any assistance, I will appreciate it

[Kakujitsu]

S-Video or Component cables will give you the best video quality output from a VCR to a capture card.

You'll need a PC with an external or internal capture card or a stand alone device to capture the AV output from the VCR.

USB Video Capture Device

PCIE Video Capture Card

NTSC VHS Capturing

NTSC VHS Processing-Conversion

[F9zVHS]

Hi, thanks for the reply, did you read my original post?

[davexnet]

Which exact version of Virtualdub? 1.9.11 seems to be the one recommended in this forum.
Use a fast lossless codec (eg. UT video, HuffyUV, etc.).

Capture @ 720x480 (NTSC) or 720x576 (PAL), use chroma colorspace 4:2:2
with lossless (PCM) audio

You can also try AmarecTV for capturing, similar settings

[ozymango]

Hi, F9zVHS -- I have this identical capture card and have had no issues capturing using VirtualDub x64, using the following settings:

Capturing at 720x480
Compression: HuffYUV codec -- note that there are different versions of the HuffYUV codec for x86 and x64, and as far as I know I can't get them to both work at the same time. That is, if I install the x86 codec, it over-writes the x64 version, and vice-versa. So I just install the HuffYUV x64 version, and that works
Framerate: 29.97fps
Audio: PCM (WAV) capture -- I do use a separate Behringer USB UFO202 capture device for audio, just because I really like the audio quality of the Behringer. Dunno if this could be the issue you're having, some audio sync with the HVR-1800, but I doubt it.

This is on a pretty basic vintage Dell with an i5 CPU, 8gb RAM, spinner hard drives, and the load on the system is about 25%, so not putting much of a load on the system. I can do a 2-hour capture with 0 dropped or added frames, audio always in sync.

I suspect it's a codec thing, just because if you are using HuffYUV and VirtualDub, x86/x64, you've got to get the matching codec installed and that can be a bit of a hassle.

One other thing you could try, is use VirtualDub2 -- this has the HuffYUV codec built-in (and some other fun codecs) and while some people have reported issues with capturing with VirtualDub2, it works fine for my HVR-1800. Anyway couldn't hurt to try it and see if there's any change for the better. Good luck!

[rgr]

Update, I was using a 64x virtual dub. Switching to 32x (x86).

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/416658-Nero-Video-Grabber-vs-Hauppauge-WinTV-USBli...e2#post2778534
The last option should normally be disabled.

You didn't write what codecs you use to capture.

[johnmeyer]

Do these problems happen if you just watch and listen to the tape on a TV set? In other words, is it really a capture problem?

[Darryl In Canada]

Hi F9zVHS. A few points in no particular order.

1. Some tapes can get audio and video out of sync for reasons unclear to me. I can do great with 9 tapes, and then one gives me trouble. So, if at the end of the troubleshooting it is still getting of a sync, it might the tape.

2. I did a many tests with a basic Sony VCR and an ATI600 to see what settings in VDub 1.9.11 work best to keep the audio and video in sync. My tape was more than 4 hours long and I had 0 dropped frames and 92 inserted frames and the audio-video was in sync at the end. The Capture Timing Options [Resync mode] I used were:
[*] Sync audio to video by resampling the audio to a faster or slower rate

I did *not* check boxes below that.

3. If you have the ES10 in the workflow then I would think that would help. The fact that it doesn't suggests that the tape might be really damaged in some way.

4. Have you tried without the ES10 in the workflow, just to see if it gets better or worse?

5. I capture to HuffYUV and the audio seems to be at 48000 Hz. I've not sure if there is another setting but I would check out your past successful captures to see if the audio settings are the same. You can use VLC (Ctrl-J) to check it out.

6. If you haven't done so, you can FF and RW the tape to loosen it, which could help it play more evenly next time you capture.