Editing Together 250 Ten-Second of the Best Movie Clips?

[doubledipsoon]

I'm an entry level video-maker with a very minimal amount of knowledge on what I'm about to do- create a 1 hour compilation of the best 5 to 15 second clips of the best movies ever made. Now, I already have these movies in DVD format, and am about to plunge into the video editing software pool of super-availability. Can anyone recommend a simple and inexpensive software for accomplishing this task? Thanks, and look forward to your responses! Joe

[usually_quiet]

I'm an entry level video-maker with a very minimal amount of knowledge on what I'm about to do- create a 1 hour compilation of the best 5 to 15 second clips of the best movies ever made. Now, I already have these movies in DVD format, and am about to plunge into the video editing software pool of super-availability. Can anyone recommend a simple and inexpensive software for accomplishing this task? Thanks, and look forward to your responses! Joe

I assume that you already have DVD ripping software if these are commercial DVDs.

MPEG-VCR can do basic frame-accurate editing of DVD video. It can import VOB, mpg, and .ts files. It provides some simple transitions. Edited video is exported as an mpg file. There is a free trial. Cost is $19.

If you want a entry-level non-linear editor, Vegas Movie Studio Platinum is a popular choice. Cost is about $80.

[doubledipsoon]

UQ, I don't know if I have any DVD ripping software on my computer- I have a Windows XP/Dell computer.........I just got back from Best Buy, and the very informed geek there said that I should have "Windows Movie Maker" in my computer, and I see that I do. How to use it? I'll check the "help" link....... I also have "Power DVD" in my computer, and I'll check that out too- don't have a clue to what it is.........As far as your info on mpeg-vcr goes, I have no idea what you're referring to. Remember, I'm computer illiterate.....I will check out "Vegas Movie Studio" also..............See, here's the gig. I'm assuming that once you have the commercial DVDs (which is what I have, you can download a portion of it, yes? Next, I need to figure out how to sequester these files and edit them, right? OK. maybe the Windows Movie maker can do it, but I have a sneaky suspicion that it's NOT for doing what I want to do, but I may be wrong. OK, here we go.....

[doubledipsoon]

OK, first things first- yes, my 250 best movies are "commercial DVDs", you know regular "region 1" store/Ebay bought movies. So It sounds like I need a DVD " ripper" to download them into my computer to begin with (so I can edit the clips later, yes? Are these DVD "rippers" equipped with "decryption" software? Let's start with that issue. Is that correct?

[smrpix]

I'm assuming that once you have the commercial DVDs (which is what I have, you can download a portion of it, yes?

No. Most DVDs are copy protected. That's why you need ripping software.

There are some options here:https://www.videohelp.com/software/sections/decrypters-dvd-rippers

It is widely held that "fair use" means you can make a backup copy of a DVD you own for your own personal use -- it's unlikely the studios will come after you. Anything beyond that is probably illegal and off the table for discussion here.

[Cornucopia]

Excerpts (particularly for educational or commentary example, and particularly such short amounts as 10sec) commonly fall under fair use, so I don't think that would be a problem (although IANAL).

Scott

[redwudz]

It might help you to learn a bit more about the DVD structure, format and specification.
You can view all this in 'WHAT IS' DVD to the upper left on this page. Scroll down to 'DVD File/Folder Structure.'

And welcome to our forums.

[doubledipsoon]

cornucopia/smrpix, yeah, how naive of me to think we the public have free assess to movie industry proprietary property!! Ok, I get it and I understand the "fair use" issue- sounds like a very grey issue, but my wish to put together a few hundred 10 second commercial movie clips into a supermovie won't even come close to any black market endeavor. I found this on searching "Downloading commercial DVDs": "Part 3. How to rip commercial DVD movies to any popular video and audio format. Since commercial DVD movies are protected, when ripping commercial DVD movies to videos, you need a DVD ripper which is capable of cracking DVD protection. Fortunately, there are many tools can help you. Among them, we highly recommend Aimersoft best DVD ripper. It is a professional DVD ripping software to convert commercial DVD movies to any popular video format like AVI, MP4, MOV, MKV, FLV, WMV, MPG, etc. and extract audio from DVD in MP3, AAC, FLAC, OGG, etc. so that you can enjoy the commercial DVD movies anywhere and anytime you like." Sounds like I've gotten past the first hurdle- Since I only have a "dial-up" internet connection, I may have to cough up the $39.95 for the "Aimersoft DVD Ripper" so I can begin my little project. Thanks all for heading me in the right direction....at least for now.

[newpball]

It is widely held that "fair use" means you can make a backup copy of a DVD you own for your own personal use --

That is not what is understood by "fair use".

Also, strictly speaking decrypting copyrighted works is not legal not even for backup purposes. It is only "legal" (read undisputed) if the backup does not require decryption.

Making a "top movie clips" video may actually be fair use. It depends on how the clips are framed, how long they are and if it is for commercial purposes. For instance if it is presented as some non-commercial cultural-historical comment on movies and its development in time it would very likely be considered fair use. Just presenting the clips as is without any commentary would obviously fail being fair use.

What is fair use is not fixed but ultimately subject to the interpretation of a court of law.

[newpball]

..but my wish to put together a few hundred 10 second commercial movie clips into a supermovie won't even come close to any black market endeavor.

Don't worry too much about it, any forum has its vigilantes!

I know you just wanted to make a cultural-historical presentation of key moments in movies and comment on it academically.
So you're off the hook!

[manono]

Among them, we highly recommend Aimersoft best DVD ripper. It is a professional DVD ripping software.

It is commercial crapware and the reviewer was probably being paid to write that. For older films on DVD without advanced copy protection, DVD Decrypter. For newer films with more advanced copy protection DVDFab HD Decrypter will do the job. Both are free.

Also, strictly speaking decrypting copyrighted works is not legal not even for backup purposes.

Depends on the country. In the US, no. In the UK, a recently passed law makes backups for personal use completely legal. So you can't just make a blanket statement like that.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/cd-and-dvd-copying-to-be-made-legal-june-1st-uk

http://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-urged-cameron-to-keep-dvd-ripping-illegal-150504/

[newpball]

Yes I must apologize for my US bias.

[doubledipsoon]

Yeah, I love where this is going, and it shows how up in the air the whole copyright thing is. The artist who makes the music vs Apple itunes vs free downloading vs video decryption protection vs DVD ripping software makers. ......One thing for sure- there's no agreement on anything anymore........I knew I could stir things up. Hey, Newpball, I love your comment on "there's always a few vigilantes on every forum" . Congradulations for coming out with it! OK, back to business as usual (ick) Manono, since all of the best movies ever made have already been made and are probably OLD, I guess your DVD Decrypter should work out fine, sicne they're not heavily scrambled. But what about NEW "Old" movies?........... I just downloaded "Aimersoft" DVD Ripper for free, and if it works, then I guess it will turn out not to be crapware, huh? But I'll keep yours in mind. Like I've told you all, I'm a computer illiterate, and I'm surprised that I got as far as I have in 1 day on this forum. What have I learned? What I've always known: if you want to do something on the edge be prepared to white lie, bend the truth, and/or act stupid- it always pays off!

[Cornucopia]

Since that portion of DMCA (wherein the "no decryption" is supposed to remain in force even though the intended application would fall under fair use) has never been tested in a court case, it still hasn't been "proven" to be illegal.
(The question lies in how can one restrictive segment of the law with commercial leanings override/negate a longstanding larger segment that was designed to specifically allow certain exceptions).

...Back on topic, I think most any MPEG2 editor would work ok for you (even keyframe-only apps). Just remember to use one that edits audio (LPCM/AC3/MP2) as well, to remain in sync.

Scott

[usually_quiet]

Yeah, I love where this is going, and it shows how up in the air the whole copyright thing is. The artist who makes the music vs Apple itunes vs free downloading vs video decryption protection vs DVD ripping software makers. ......One thing for sure- there's no agreement on anything anymore........I knew I could stir things up. Hey, Newpball, I love your comment on "there's always a few vigilantes on every forum" . Congradulations for coming out with it! OK, back to business as usual (ick) Manono, since all of the best movies ever made have already been made and are probably OLD, I guess your DVD Decrypter should work out fine, sicne they're not heavily scrambled. But what about NEW "Old" movies?........... I just downloaded "Aimersoft" DVD Ripper for free, and if it works, then I guess it will turn out not to be crapware, huh? But I'll keep yours in mind. Like I've told you all, I'm a computer illiterate, and I'm surprised that I got as far as I have in 1 day on this forum. What have I learned? What I've always known: if you want to do something on the edge be prepared to white lie, bend the truth, and/or act stupid- it always pays off!

Hmmm... Since much of what you told us about this project may be a lie and your apparent ignorance and stupidity is merely an act, there is no point in helping you. A smart deceitful guy like you is surely capable of pulling this off on his own.

[doubledipsoon]

UsuallyQuiet, Calm down and relax- sounds like you're the kind of uptight bummer to kill someone with your gun for ringing your front door. Do all of us a big favor by having a great day........................someplace else!

[smrpix]

@doubledips### --knock it off. You came here to learn something.

[usually_quiet]

@doubledips### --knock it off. You came here to learn something.

No. Read the second post that I quoted. He came here for the express purpose of wasting our time, and being a dick. I smell yet another troll.

[smrpix]

@doubledips### --knock it off. You came here to learn something.

No. Read the second post that I quoted. He came here for the express purpose of wasting our time, and being a dick. I smell yet another troll.

I agree.

[Cornucopia]

Yeah, post #13 did it for me: Good luck on your own!

Scott

[doubledipsoon]

You were right- a "smart and deceitful guy like myself is fully capable of pulling it off on my own". I've already downloaded the Aimersoft DVD Ripper, have edited snipets of great movie scenes, and have begun the compilation! I thank you all for pointing out that I would need a DVD ripper to decrypt the proprietary scrambling in all commercial DVD's, as I really didn't know that. OK, everything else I've figured out on my own, and I'm sure a few of you by-the-book vigilantes would love to turn me in for for even hinting at violating their precious copyright laws. Hey, you definitely wouldn't have liked my movie anyway, as it puts down just about every aspect of our wealth-driven, gun-loving, sweat-shop-supplied, and petroleum-obsessed global mega-machine, all courtesy of Wall Street and the 1% (Excuse me while I get down on my knees). Like the saying goes, "Need a Job?....Move to China"....Since I always love getting the last word, Eat It!!!!

[racer-x]

Have fun in China.

[smrpix]

Glad we could help. If you have any more questions, please call directly. (202) 324-3000

[usually_quiet]

Like I said, he's a troll.

[johns0]

Thread has run its course.