How make DVD without menus from mp4 file - no bells, whistles etc

[loninappleton]

I have nothing against posting the log.
But if it contains certain file information, even though this type of thing is worked on
all the time, it could cause some rule infraction at VH.

And you are right. I had no idea I'd be enmeshed in such a briar patch.

The OP is right on many counts. This is 2015. A lot of this should be smoothed out by now.

[DB83]

I may be jumping to conclusions but if you have a 6 gb .ts source that would have to be self-recorded/captured from a stb or similar.

I do not see any possibility of any rule infraction there but, there again, I am not a mod. Even so, there are work-arounds if you are over-sensitive to filenames etc.

[loninappleton]

I may be jumping to conclusions but if you have a 6 gb .ts source that would have to be self-recorded/captured from a stb or similar.

I do not see any possibility of any rule infraction there but, there again, I am not a mod. Even so, there are work-arounds if you are over-sensitive to filenames etc.

To rewind a bit we were talking about analyzing the log file called here DVD_4 which produced a DVD disk where the sound was off by Delay=1.

I can put that in here as an attachment or print it to screen

Yes, this is a screen cap from a television production of a play. It's one of those hasty jobs
that stops abruptly at the end.

If there is a problem with attachment getting transferred, I'll cut and paste it in here.

[_MrC_]

AVStoDVD can easily handle a constant out-of-sync value ('Edit Title'/'AviSynth'/'Audio'/'Delay Audio'), but the user must know the exact amount of delay/advance. Of course the audio has to be reprocessed ('Edit Title'/'Audio' > make sure that 'Audio Direct Stream Copy' is off).

The DVD_4.log file would be way useful... just copy and paste.



Bye

[loninappleton]

I will have it in here shortly and willing to take instruction on this even though it is
slow going. Getting around having to join files would be a relief.

[loninappleton]

The log we want is DVD_3 which completed the burn process (close to 6 hours altogether)

<3/29/2015 4:35:18 PM>
START PROCESS
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<3/29/2015 4:35:18 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 4450/4450 MB (100%)
DVD Output Setup: Burn DVD
DVD Label: DVD
DVD Menu: Static Menu
Output Folder: C:\Users\lon\Videos
Delete Temp Assets Files: Yes
Delete Temp Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

PREFERENCES

MultiThread: 1
AVS Video Source Filter: A2DSource
AVS Audio Source Filter: A2DSource
AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Lanczos4Resize/Spline16Resize
Frame Adjust Strategy: 1
PAL SpeedUp: 0
NTSC SlowDown: 0
Video Resolution: 0
Video BitRate Min: 2500
Video BitRate Level 1: 6500
Video Profile Level 2: 4500
Video BitRate Max: 8500
Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
DVD Audio Format: 0
DVD Audio BitRate: 192
Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 1
Normalize Audio: 0
Auto Delay Audio: 1
DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
DVD Subs Font: Tahoma 16pt (255,255,255)
Chapters Interval: 5
Use Source Chapters: 1
DVD Burning Drive: D: ASUS DRW-24B1ST a 1.04
DVD Burning Speed: 4x
Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
Unload ActiveMovie library: 0
Adjust DirectShow Filters at runtime: 1
Save General Settings: 0

SYSTEM INFO

Processor Name: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor
Operating System: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (64 bit)
AviSynth is installed: YES (release 2.5.8)
LAV Filters is installed: YES (release 0.63.0)
ffdshow is installed: YES (release 1.3.4531)
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<3/29/2015 4:35:18 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi.1080 i.h264-NX.ts
Info: AVC - 5850 kbps - 1920x1080 - DAR 16:9 - 25 fps (CFR) - MBAFF - 2:26:22 hours - 219553 frames
Audio 1: C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi.1080 i.h264-NX_1.ac3
Info: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 16 bit - 2:26:22 hours (0 ms delay)
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.69]
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<3/29/2015 4:35:18 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duche ss.of.Malfi.1080i.h264-NX.ts", CacheFolder="C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp", FrameRate=25, VFR=false)
# Audio is frameserved by AviSynth just for Preview and Edit purposes.
Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duche ss.of.Malfi.1080i.h264-NX_1.ac3", CacheFolder="C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,480)
#Using DGPulldown/HCenc to upsize FPS

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<3/29/2015 4:35:18 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 2-pass
Target Video FileSize: 4117.4 MB
Encoding Parameters: -ini "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duc hess.of.Malfi.1080i.h264-NX.HCenc.ini"
HCenc ini file:
*INFILE C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duch ess.of.Malfi.1080i.h264-NX_1.avs
*AVSRELOAD
*OUTFILE C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi .1080i.h264-NX.m2v
*LOGFILE C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duch ess.of.Malfi.1080i.h264-NX.HCenc.log
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*BITRATE 3933
*PROFILE BEST
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*TFF
*BIAS 40
*DC_PREC 8
*MATRIX MPEG
*AQ 1
*LUMGAIN 1
*SMP
*PRIORITY IDLE
*DBPATH C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp
*WAIT 2
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<3/29/2015 8:43:07 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Video Source Filter: A2DSource (DirectShowSource)
Created File: C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi .1080i.h264-NX.m2v (4119.7 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3935 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 16:9 - 25 fps (CFR) - Progressive (TFF) - 2:26:22 hours - 219558 frames
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<3/29/2015 8:43:07 PM>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malf i.1080i.h264-NX.m2v" -srcfps 25.000 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -tff
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<3/29/2015 9:50:24 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi .1080i.h264-NX.m2v (4119.7 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3935 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 16:9 - 29.97 fps (CFR) - Progressive - 2:26:22 hours - 263205 frames
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<3/29/2015 9:50:27 PM>
SKIP AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Source audio file 'C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi.108 0i.h264-NX_1.ac3' is already DVD compliant.
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<3/29/2015 9:50:29 PM>
START DVD MENU BUILDING OPERATIONS
DVD Menu settings:
Style: 0
Aspect Ratio: 0
Titles Format: 0
Template: Menu in Black
Max Titles Page: 12
Enable Play All: 1
Force Play All: 0
Background Audio: 0
Max Thumbs Row: 4
Thumb Image Source: 0
Thumb Frame Position: 10%
HL Frame Format: 0
HL Selection Color: 5
HL Play Color: 0
Menu Video BitRate: 6000 kbps
Motion Menu Duration: 15 seconds
Thumb Drop Shadow: 2
Play All Shadow: 2
Arrows Shadow: 0
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<3/29/2015 9:50:51 PM>
END DVD MENU BUILDING OPERATIONS
Created File (Menu Page 1): C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_MenuPage1.bmp (1 MB)
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<3/29/2015 9:50:51 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_BatchMux.in i"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_MuxMan. mxp"
-l "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_MuxMan. log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-palette "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_Palette.txt "
-v "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malf i.1080i.h264-NX.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi.108 0i.h264-NX_1.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malf i.1080i.h264-NX_Chapters.txt"
-progfr "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malf i.1080i.h264-NX_Chapters.txt"
-chapfr "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malf i.1080i.h264-NX_Chapters.txt"
-SEG2v "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_MenuPage1.bmp"
-SEG2vidmode 4:3
-SEG2s1 "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_Menu.sst"
-SEG2s1dmode LB
-SEG2hlmnu "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_MenuPage1_B uttons.mnu"
-SEG2hlcsm "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_HighlightSc heme.csm
-hcn "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_BatchMux.hc n"
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<3/29/2015 10:16:52 PM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3 (4414.7 MB)

CHECK DVD SIZE
DVD Folder (actual) Size: 4414.7 MB
vs Estimated Size: 4450 MB -> 0.8% undersize
vs Assets Size: 4321.7 MB -> OK
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<3/29/2015 10:16:55 PM>
START DVD BURNING OPERATIONS
ImgBurn (DVD) Parameters: /mode isobuild /buildmode device /src "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3\VIDEO_TS" /dest D: /volumelabel "DVD" /speed 4x /erase /testmode no /verify no /noimagedetails /start /waitformedia /close /log "C:\Users\lon\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_3_ImgBurn.log "
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<3/29/2015 10:32:20 PM>
END DVD BURNING OPERATIONS
Created DVD: 'DVD' in drive D: ASUS DRW-24B1ST a 1.04
Average Write Rate: 8,117 KB/s (5.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,384 KB/s (6.1x)
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<3/29/2015 10:32:20 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.8.0
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[newpball]

...
Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,480)
...

Why not 702?

[usually_quiet]

@loninappleton Just ignore newpball. He's a troll who appears to think that nobody should be using DVD video discs, standard video resolutions, standard definition video or MPEG-2. He does his best to disrupt every DVD-related thread by sending them off topic with his own questions and comments.

[loninappleton]

I will wait to hear any analysis of my log file and how to handle that.

But in further experiment with the AVStoDVD .ts file, early on it asks if I really want NTSC (I do) or Pal with a reference to handling frame rate.

I encountered the Pal/NTSC dilemma a while back in trying to get subtitles straight on a project
which I had to abandon since the source file and independent .srt sub did not give enough data
on useful corrections.

My question is: could this frame rate issue be the cause of the audio problem?

Just curious about it.

The audio problem in AVStoDVD is also referenced in an old thread at videohelp. The novice user used the familiar word 'nightmare' in that regard.

[manono]

My question is: could this frame rate issue be the cause of the audio problem?

No, as the video length remained the same before and after. What it did was encode for the same 25fps as the source and then apply a specific kind of pulldown (not 3:2 but 3:2:3:2:2) which kept the length the same and at the same time made it NTSC compatible by having it output interlaced 29.97fps:

<3/29/2015 8:43:07 PM>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "C:\Users\lon\Videos\DVD_3_BBC.The.Duchess.of. Malf i.1080i.h264-NX.m2v" -srcfps 25.000 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -tff
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That's what the ' srcfps 25.000 -destfps 29.97' means.

[DB83]

Something odd has happened tho.

If you recorded that from the tv, surely the source would have been > 25 fps ?

Brings me back to an earlier question. Was the .ts source fully in sync ?

Should not be the case but I now wonder if svstodvd misread the source. Can you also post a mediainfo report of the original .ts file (text mode)

[manono]

TS files sometimes have problems from the capture that can create difficulties when doing further work with them. If the problem is a constant asynch (the same amount all the way through), it's an easy matter to figure it out before then setting a delay.

[_MrC_]

There are 2 separate source files:

C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi.1080 i.h264-NX.ts
which contains the video track (AVC H.264)

C:\Users\lon\Desktop\BBC.The.Duchess.of.Malfi.1080 i.h264-NX_1.ac3
which is a separate audio file (AC3)

Did you demuxed/encoded the AC3 file with AVStoDVD?

Why don't you input the original TS captured file and let AVStoDVD do the full video and audio encoding within the same project run?



Bye

[loninappleton]

I thought that's how we got to the delay problem.

Yes I have run the original .ts file with all the HCenc time that took.

Does the log not show that?


Makes me wonder if a single pass option is available.

[DB83]

The log file shows that audio was not processed since it was 'already dvd-compliant'

A single pass against a two-pass would make no different to the output but you can select it within the program.

Pls post a mediainfo report of the .ts file and, again, just why was this source 25fps ?

[_MrC_]

In addition to DB83 comments, I would suggest to:

1.
- Add the original TS file to AVStoDVD
- Do not demux the AC3 audio track, if you are prompted to select that option (e.g. there are multiple audio tracks)
- Select 'Edit Title'/'Video' > toggle off 'Auto Video Setup' and select 'FFMpeg CBR 1-pass' as encoding profile to speed up the encoding process
- Select 'Edit Title'/'Audio' > toggle off 'Auto Audio Setup' and 'Audio Direct Stream Copy'
- Start the project

Now, if you still get audio delay, try to evaluate the delay amount with VLC or MPC-HC. Keep note of the audio delay value (milliseconds) and go to bullet point 2.

2.
- Add the original TS file to AVStoDVD
- Do not demux the AC3 audio track, if you are prompted to select that option (e.g. there are multiple audio tracks)
- Select 'Edit Title'/'Video' > toggle off 'Auto Video Setup' and select 'FFMpeg CBR 1-pass' as encoding profile to speed up the encoding process
- Select 'Edit Title'/'Audio' > toggle off 'Auto Audio Setup' and 'Audio Direct Stream Copy'
- Select 'Edit Title'/'AviSynth' > toggle off 'Auto AviSynth Setup' and select 'Audio'/'Delay Audio'. Insert the audio delay value you have previously recorded.
- Start the project

If you still have troubles post the 2 projects log files.



Bye

[usually_quiet]

...again, just why was this source 25fps ?

I'm pretty sure you already know the reason for that, since you are aware that N. American TV uses 1080i 29.97 fps.

[DB83]

...again, just why was this source 25fps ?

I'm pretty sure you already know the reason for that, since you are aware that N. American TV uses 1080i 29.97 fps.

I do know the reason and I hope the poster did not mislead when I encouraged him to post the log since I do not, out of principle, assist with torrents of any type - even FTA recordings from the BBC (broadcast spring 2014).

[newpball]

...I do not, out of principle, assist with torrents of any type - even FTA recordings from the BBC (broadcast spring 2014).

Or images of Black Adder?

[DB83]

...I do not, out of principle, assist with torrents of any type - even FTA recordings from the BBC (broadcast spring 2014).

Or images of Black Adder?

As u_q states in #68, certain comments do not deserve response.

[loninappleton]

I told you so. Proper names always a problem.

[DB83]

I told you so. Proper names always a problem.

Yip. And I told you that there are work-arounds.

But alter the filename and people jump to conclusions. So you are in a no-win situation.

But since we have got this far, and I am in a good pre-birthday (Monday) mood, answer the questions asked. To repeat.

1. Was the original .ts totally in sync throughout the playback ?
2. Confirm that you loaded the full .ts in to avstodvd . _MrC_ thinks otherwise.
3. Post the mediainfo (text) report of the .ts file

[loninappleton]

I have been on here with various problems since 2005.

If I get bad advice, well that's the video game.

I will do as you ask shortly.

First question best I can determine is everything was in sync until the burn job
was played in a stand alone player which I thought came from some audio/compression
problem.

Today and before I was reading the latest posts in the thread I _found_ where the various vob sets from practice jobs were written. While the HCenc program where makinjg things they called the target folder Video. On my machine the folder is MyVideo and they wrote to that.

I sampled some first vob and last vob and the sound is all ok.

But I will do ask you ask.



Shortly.

[DB83]

There is IMO never intent to give bad advice. But like any doctor one can only diagnose from the available symtoms.

Did you also try to play the dvd as created on your hdd - not just single vobs - in a software player such as vlc ?

Did you also try to play the burnt dvd in a software player ? - attempt to discount issues with your stand-alone and burnt media.

[loninappleton]

Something odd has happened tho.

If you recorded that from the tv, surely the source would have been > 25 fps ?

Brings me back to an earlier question. Was the .ts source fully in sync ?

Should not be the case but I now wonder if svstodvd misread the source. Can you also post a mediainfo report of the original .ts file (text mode)

Some things to answer:

I had successfully loaded the .ts file into MediInfo (a program I have not actively used with any knowledge). I asked to Export to the Text option under the tab.

The Sample .txt file shown is called Example. Without changing that, I was not able to locate this example.txt file and no completion of the task was shown. What's my problem? Is there another option I missed? Why did not print a simple .txt file to the MediaInfo folder (it's own path) work?

I wonder if the original poster has stopped by to look at all this.

It reminds me of the radio program Riders in the Sky where they used to say "It'd be the easy way, but (said with pride) it wouldn't be the cowboy way."

[usually_quiet]

Some things to answer:

I had successfully loaded the .ts file into MediInfo (a program I have not actively used with any knowledge). I asked to Export to the Text option under the tab.

The Sample .txt file shown is called Example. Without changing that, I was not able to locate this example.txt file and no completion of the task was shown. What's my problem? Is there another option I missed? Why did not print a simple .txt file to the MediaInfo folder (it's own path) work?

Looks like a bug to me. I never noticed "Export" doesn't work because I never used it. I always copy from the Text View window and paste into my post or into Notepad.

...but more importantly, did _MrC_'s or anyone's suggestions actually allow you to convert this file into a playable DVD or are you still scratching your head?

[loninappleton]

@usually_quiet

Still scratching. I mentioned that the vob 01 and vob last played with no sync problems--
somewhere amidst all these copies and programs.

As to the disk, right now I do not know a good media player to run this dvd made in -- well, quite frankly I don't remember.

Any time I start one of these queries I'm looking for a method of work in steps which is what I think the OP wanted as well.

MediaInfo is me starting over. I will try as you say to work in the view option.

[DB83]

The way I use mediainfo is thus.

When installed it should add an item to your 'right-click context menu' from Windows Explorer. So locate the file in W_E, right-click on the .ts and select mediainfo from the menu.

Select View/text. Right-click in the window. And chose 'Select All'. Right-click again and select 'Copy'. Paste direct to a reply here or Paste to Notepad and upload the saved file as an attachment.

[loninappleton]

Ok, I'll see if I can just get to MediaInfo from the .ts file.

[usually_quiet]

@usually_quiet

Still scratching. I mentioned that the vob 01 and vob last played with no sync problems--
somewhere amidst all these copies and programs.

As to the disk, right now I do not know a good media player to run this dvd made in -- well, quite frankly I don't remember. option.

Software media player? Media Player Classic Home Cinema perhaps?