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Take for instance the Steam hardware and software survey done last month:Originally Posted by El Heggunte
I seriously doubt that. Do you have any RELIABLE sources which back the extraordinary claimOriginally Posted by newpball
Windows XP 32 bit: 4.11%
Windows XP 64 bit: 0.24%
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey?platform=pc
Or from the w3schools site also from last month:
Windows XP: 4.9%
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
But perhaps I made a grand mistake, those sites are perhaps referring to more flexible and computer savvy minds, it did not include the more inflexible stuffy minds.
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Steam is highly biased toward gamers so few of their users would be using XP now. Worldwide, XP is still on about 1/4 of all computers. Of course, half of them are pirated versions in China.Originally Posted by newpball
But none of this matters. If XP works for you, fine. If not, fine. Why do you guys care so much what OS somebody else uses? Don't you have anything better to worry about? -
This.Originally Posted by jagabo
Surely you are too young AND/OR misinformed. What you describe as "more flexible and computer savvy minds", I define as «gayishly-naïve crowd»Originally Posted by newpball
"Newer" not always means *better*. Compared to XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows H8 surely include too much bloat (which means the code is not as efficient as it could be), too much eye-candy (which can be turned off, but cannot be deleted from the HDD), and they all give to the end-user much less freedom to control the operating system. And to be fair, this whole trend began with XP itself
For example, Windows 95 did let you access (and edit) the Internet media types through the 'File Types' tab in the 'Folder Options' applet; on Windows XP and above, you are forced to mess around directly with the Registry to do the same thing -.-
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I know, I know, they are so foolish, nowadays almost every computer is sold with Windows 8, best thing to do is wipe it out immediately and install good old Windows XP (preferable 32 bit).Originally Posted by El Heggunte
Surely you are too young AND/OR misinformed. What you describe as "more flexible and computer savvy minds", I define as «gayishly-naïve crowd»
Will this gayishly-naive crowd ever learn?
Computers should be for serious and mature people only:
I am telling you after CP/M it all went downhill!
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Hello blinky88,
Upload is done.
Requirements: Hiren's Boot DVD and External HDD.
Link here: http://youtu.be/3pXNIoG3tds
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The cable required to Clone your computer to another HDD via USB cable, REFLECT will do the job.
Note, this is an identical drive to the one in my computer, 2 1/2" SATA.
I still run XP3 NEVER have a problem.Last edited by blinky88; 30th Dec 2014 at 10:20.
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Great.
The program I mention before also run via USB, it takes hrs. to get the job done, work on both direction & no need to take the HDD out.
It had a bolkie part in between the 2/3 USB's ends.
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Yes, one wonders, installing Windows takes half an hour at most.Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec
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Good point........Originally Posted by newpball
Yes, one wonders, installing Windows takes half an hour at most.Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec
And copying over saved files takes a few minutes more. I do wonder if the OP had issues with drivers and such....Got my retirement plans all set. Looks like I only have to work another 5 years after I die........ -
Generally I don't understand why people want "full backup" especially of the OS, when you can install clean copy of the OS now for less than 15-30 min with all the programs ( including video editing programs) games and other. This means that you already backuped previously only "Data" (pictures, documents, books,videos music and so on and forth not OS and programs) or even better today we have cloud backup which is more secure and reliable than doing backup on separate hdd or flash ( although privacy is still "concern" for some) but that's just mine opinion.
As other sad there is no guarantee that the HDD will work in another PC as main one. Concerning backup software that I used, Acronis True image (older version) http://www.acronis.com/en-us/personal/true-image-comparison/?adpos=1t1&creative=516263...FUbLtAodbRsA-Q It did its job as you sad but after some time the OS started acting "weird" and I only made some minor changes to the "new PC" new TV and audio card and 2 GB more. After I reinstalled OS and reinstall all programs it worked stable and faster again so you may take that in account, change of CPU or other "more important card like GPU" in cloning will give you some problem along the way.
XP was excellent OS "for its time" but now less and less programs ( adobe stepped into 64 bit land and win 7/8 support almost all major video picture editing software did the same) and games ( no directx 10 11 ) don't work on it, not to mention the new hardware ( which can do the same job but twice or even several times faster) than older hardware on newer OS ( like 7 or 8 ) which translate into savings. Time is money
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I'd say 30 minutes is a bit tight but yes I agree.Originally Posted by mammo1789
Sure, super secure.Originally Posted by mammo1789
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Putting your personal files up in the cloud is like putting the house key under the welcome mat at the front door.............
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[QUOTE]Putting your personal files up in the cloud is like putting the house key under the welcome mat at the front door.............[QUOTE]Sure, super secure.
i meant in terms of security in case lets say your house has burnt in fire your belongings ( not just the key) can be saved and you can pick them up in any place you go. Also with cloud based backup you can access them on several devices like PC or tablet, phone, laptop. I agree with the two concerning privacy ( meaning someone else might endanger your privacy).
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And if you put it on the cloud always encrypt it with Truecrypt.
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I didn't think you'd take long to hit full waffle mode. When someone offers meaningless rhetoric while ignoring questions because they don't have an answer, posting tends to follow a fairly predictable pattern. Although to your credit, you've posted silly pictures quite early in the game, that's usually reserved for later on in the "discussion" I assume to lift the mood once everyone else is fairly bored.Originally Posted by newpball
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Well I need considerably more time than that. There's the GPU to configure, capture devices to set up, video programs to configure, wi-fi adapter to set up, network shares, permissions, browser add-ons to configure, email and bookmarks to restore from backup (MozBackup in my case). And plenty more to do, all of which takes time.Originally Posted by mammo1789
OTOH, I can do a full backup of my OS drive in a bit more than five minutes. This is an SSD with only the OS and programs on it. To restore from backup takes about the same time, five minutes. To my mind, this is far, far easier than doing a complete re-install.
All my documents, video files, OS backups etc, are stored on hard drives other than the OS drive, and redundancy is ensured by having everything backed up on powered external hard drives as well. The externals are only powered up for file transfers.
I just don't trust putting all my stuff on the cloud. How is the above method more time-consuming and/or less reliable? The only advantage I can see with the cloud is in the fire scenario you mentioned.Pull! Bang! Darn! -
I know I'm still running XP on a couple of SATA hard drives (running as a RAID-0 volume) but the extra time the OS system takes to install aside..... I'm generally much closer to a "how many days" time frame than "how many minutes". My internet connection's not overly fast but I'm pretty sure running Windows Update after the previous XP installation took a time frame measured in hours.Originally Posted by mammo1789
Alternatively, I can image the partition containing Windows and installed programs and save that image to the second hard drive in around five minutes. Restoring it takes a similar amount of time. And because I have two hard drives, I image Windows without programs installed first, and restore that to the second hard drive as a backup "clean" OS, and finally I restore the image to a drive in the second PC as it has identical hardware. Once Windows has complained about identical computer names on the network and I've change one, then swapped the drive letters around as required, I'm usually good to go.
I've installed various flavours of Windows on so many PCs over the years I generally feel like having a little cry if I have to do it these days.
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Yeah I also do the multiple image backups for various PCs around the house. I have a few bootable thumbdrives to make the jod a lot easier. It beats running antivirus s/w 24/7.
The only OS I don't mind re-installing is Linux. That's because it's a very quick job since I don't run too many programs on it anyway.Got my retirement plans all set. Looks like I only have to work another 5 years after I die........ -
I am surprised Windows Update still works for XP.Originally Posted by hello_hello
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. Windows 8.1 on usb installs around 10 min on my pc on faster ones with SSD ( i dont have SSD) can be much faster.Well I need considerably more time than that. There's the GPU to configure, capture devices to set up, video programs to configure, wi-fi adapter to set up, network shares, permissions, browser add-ons to configure, email and bookmarks to restore from backup (MozBackup in my case). And plenty more to do, all of which takes timecmon less than 1min job, 20 min for all other is more than enough i thinkconfigure GPU
. I sad that XP was very good but, it has many limitation in speed and usability to newer OS. Also privacy and security are much higher than on XP( I am not talking just about antivirus but holes in the OS that will not be fixed by MS or can be prevented by software av ). PC running XP in 2014/2015 is very vulnerable to hacker or malware attacks so in the end, pc with newer OS and files in the cloud will be much saferI know I'm still running XP on a couple of SATA hard drives (running as a RAID-0 volume) but the extra time the OS system takes to install aside..... I'm generally much closer to a "how many days" time frame than "how many minutes". My internet connection's not overly fast but I'm pretty sure running Windows Update after the previous XP installation took a time frame measured in hours.
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The clone was completed with Macrium Reflect 21 minutes.
The reason for the clone was I have taken XP3 down to bare bones and that was done over about 2 hours, I simply did not want to go through that again.
I believe I don't have any problems because I use Glary Utilities every time I'm finished with the internet and use Perfect Disk once a month to defrag.
Getting back to big mouth Racer X, yes I'm 76 still fit, never been knocked down by anyone in my life and come from a suburb in Sydney where fighting was an every day thing.
You can be sure if you did live local I'd pay you a visit which you would never forget, guaranteed.
For those who believe they are using the latest and greatest OS believe me XP3 is as good as they come. Maybe if you play games it's not for you, that said, I do not play games.Last edited by blinky88; 31st Dec 2014 at 06:15.
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Well good for you.
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Come on guys, relax...
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I note there are many members on this forum still using XP3, I'll give you a couple of tips.
Double click on Windows you will see a Prefetch Folder, double click on it and you will more than likely see hundreds of files that are not needed because of the speed of computers these days. To stop this from happening:
Open RUN, type reg edit, be careful you are now in the registry. Goto
HKEY-LOCAL-MACHINE_CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manger\Memory Management\PrefetchParametres\EnablePrefetcher
change boot files to 2
plus change value of PagingExecutive to 1
change value of LargeSystemCache to 1
also goto HKEY-CURRENT-USER\Control Panel\Desktop - Select -MenuShowDelay-change value to Zero.
I could take you into GPEDIT where you can fully customize your entire system however that may be taking it too far.
Back to Windows, open the Prefetch folder select all and delete, the only file in that folder after you re-boot is the Boot file.
After you have taken the steps as advised your computer should be faster.Last edited by blinky88; 31st Dec 2014 at 11:19.
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Very good and if you have problems just use the XP install disc to do a repair, you won't have to re-install your programs. XP is still usable, but its days are numbered for browsing the net. As long as the latest browser works with it and there are antivirus for it there shouldn't be too many problems. For the warez and pr0n crowd it might not be a good idea, but is that ever with any OS?Originally Posted by blinky88
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I have always used FIREFOX and have not found a reason to change and AVAST free anti-virus protector.
Last edited by blinky88; 31st Dec 2014 at 11:22.
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After cloning that drive I installed it into my computers big brother and much to my surprise, it functions perfectly, no problems at all.
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I run XP. I don't run antivirus. I don't run a software firewall. As you can see by the date of the unintall folders, I haven't even run Windows Update in a year and a half. I visit all sorts of dark corners of the internt. I run an up to date browser. Before restoring a previous image and updating Windows and programs etc, then creating a fresh image (which I usually do around once a year, but I'm over-due this time), I install an antivirus program and run a full scan. Number of reported infections to date, zero, and I've been using that system for years.Originally Posted by mammo1789
. I sad that XP was very good but, it has many limitation in speed and usability to newer OS. Also privacy and security are much higher than on XP( I am not talking just about antivirus but holes in the OS that will not be fixed by MS or can be prevented by software av ). PC running XP in 2014/2015 is very vulnerable to hacker or malware attacks so in the end, pc with newer OS and files in the cloud will be much safer
When I upgrade this PC or build a new one, which I've been meaning to do for quite a while, I'll have to run Win7 because there's no XP drivers for the chipset in question. That's the only reason I won't be installing XP, and even then, it'll be a temporary measure as I wait for Win10 while hoping I won't hate it.
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