Enhancing MP4 ?

[PowerFalcon]

I wanted to record uncompressed RAW video, unfortunately most video recording devices, including my phone which like most, records at 1080p and saves to MP4. Is there a major video degrade over uncompressed and MP4 as I mostly will be recording video that is five minutes or less, or are there tools that could enhance the MP4 video ?

[poisondeathray]

I wanted to record uncompressed RAW video, unfortunately most video recording devices, including my phone which like most, records at 1080p and saves to MP4. Is there a major video degrade over uncompressed and MP4 as I mostly will be recording video that is five minutes or less, or are there tools that could enhance the MP4 video ?

"uncompressed" and "raw" are 2 different things , and your phone couldn't handle the data rates for either for writing . eg. 1080p24 YUV 4:2:0 uncompressed requires > 100MB/s

For "enhancement" - what can be done about it depends on the specific problem(s) . Provide a better description about what is "wrong" or post a video sample

[newpball]

I wanted to record uncompressed RAW video, unfortunately most video recording devices, including my phone which like most, records at 1080p and saves to MP4. Is there a major video degrade over uncompressed and MP4 as I mostly will be recording video that is five minutes or less, or are there tools that could enhance the MP4 video ?

Let me short circuit this: a phone does not record good quality video regardless of the compression used.

[PowerFalcon]

Do you know of any low cost device considering how much recording I will be doing that records uncompressed video ? I'll take your word smart phones can't do uncompressed too bad, some do digital photography really well !

[manono]

Do you know of any low cost device considering how much recording I will be doing that records uncompressed video ?

Lossless (and compressed) will serve you just as well and, yes, there are lots of capturing devices that can cap lossless video. Have you even mentioned what it is you want to record?

[PowerFalcon]

Do you know of any low cost device considering how much recording I will be doing that records uncompressed video ?

Lossless (and compressed) will serve you just as well and, yes, there are lots of capturing devices that can cap lossless video. Have you even mentioned what it is you want to record?

I only want to record video clips typically up to ten minutes, I know I said five, give a little recording space I don't want any compression done on the video, or any of it's channels, why I want uncompressed !

[poisondeathray]

Very few cameras record uncompressed onboard, because the data rates are too high.

If you're talking portable (not anchored to a computer or studio) the least expensive uncompressed recorder is the blackmagic shuttle ~$350 . You need a SSD to record to as well (Prices are much more reasonable these days). That's just the recorder and medium. Your camera needs to output a clean HDMI or SDI signal (many cameras do not, or don't have output signal)

A shitty camera will still give a shitty picture regardless if you record uncompressed or not. All the crappy picture will be captured perfectly.

Usually you will get a better picture with a decent camera using compression , than a shitty camera using uncompressed

[PowerFalcon]

Suppose I don't go uncompressed, what is the best device that has the closest compression to uncompressed that you are aware of ?

The Blackmagic shuttle requires a SDI or HDMI enabled camcorder, why can't I get an SDI or HDMI camcorder then feed the video though to my computer, unless it's compressed on the camcorder ?

[poisondeathray]

Suppose I don't go uncompressed, what is the best device that has the closest compression to uncompressed that you are aware of ?

Your questions are too problematic...

"Best" in terms of what ? Resolution ? Low light ? Lattitude ?

Did you want to spend $50K on a camera body and $100K on lenses ?

What about accessories , like viewfinder, lighting rigs ?

Most "pros" use low compression formats like Prores on external recorders. They are close enough to uncompressed, but data rates are managable

What is the ballpark price range ?

[PowerFalcon]

Best in terms of resolution, to narrow things down. The max I want to spend is up to $200, if that is possible ? I've heard about Prores, didn't know it was close enough to uncompressed as one could get for a codec.

[poisondeathray]

The Blackmagic shuttle requires a SDI or HDMI enabled camcorder, why can't I get an SDI or HDMI camcorder then feed the video though to my computer, unless it's compressed on the camcorder ?

You sure can, if the camcorder has a clean signal

But Garbage in = Garbage out . If the camcorder has poor optics, aliasing, low actual resolution , then image will be poor . You get what you pay for

Best in terms of resolution, to narrow things down. The max I want to spend is up to $200, if that is possible ? I've heard about Prores, didn't know it was close enough to uncompressed as one could get for a codec.

Forget it then. Stick with the phone. The recorder is more than $200. You still need the SSD, camera body, lenses, accessories

[PowerFalcon]

Forget all the Frills, stick the the core. What about $300 ?

[poisondeathray]

Forget all the Frills, stick the the core. What about $300 ?

You can get an Atomos Ninja star for ~ $300, it records ProRes through HDMI.

But you still need SSD , Camera, Accessories

[newpball]

Best in terms of resolution, to narrow things down. The max I want to spend is up to $200, if that is possible ? I've heard about Prores, didn't know it was close enough to uncompressed as one could get for a codec.

Resolution and compression are but two factors determining the quality of video that is recorded.

If you do not want to spend more than $200 you should forget about uncompressed video. If you worry about compression artifacts and quality in general you simply cannot expect anything that would satisfy you for $200.

The more important question is what are you recording and for what purpose? Because frankly that should determine what camera to get.

[PowerFalcon]

I was about to say, I need a camera, what can you recommend ?

[racer-x]

I was about to say, I need a camera, what can you recommend ?

Then get "a camera"................

[newpball]

I was about to say, I need a camera, what can you recommend ?

I was about to think, are we being trolled?

[Cornucopia]

Not suggesting you get exactly what I got, but when I researched early last spring for a DSLR with clean HDMI video, the lowest was the Nikon D3200. I got a bundle that included the cam, 2 lenses (18-55, 55-300), bag & some accessories for ~$550. Add to that the BMD H.Shuttle + SSD + BATTERIES, and you are looking at ~$900. That is,IMO, the LOWEST you will be able to "shoot uncompressed" (even though it still is lightly-compressed). And that still doesn't cover good monitoring, extra batteries (you always need them), tripod, grip accessories, carry cases...

You should think $1000USD is your minimum budget for "uncompressed". If you can't or won't reach that, don't even attempt to go for it.

But that leads back to the question: "Why are you feeling like you must use 'uncompressed'?" What are you using, or how are you using it, that makes you so disappointed in the first place? There are plenty of compressed camera system solutions out there for (overall) less than $1000USD, many of which are very flexible and high quality to particular needs. What are YOUR needs?

Scott