Canon 24p (60i) workflow and help

[danfuerth]

Hi everyone over the years I have visited this site as a guest. Let me say I have learned a lot from this site.

The issue I have comes down to simplicity.

As you know the issue with Canon not flagging their 24p videos makes it awkward to edit on NLE's as they do not get the flags from Canon's 24P VIDEOS. I know firmly that Canon is doing this on purpose in order to protect Sony ( since Canon is the lens maker for Sony high end cams)

I would like to know if someone out there has my idea and is working on something that will do this:

24pf video from Canon's cameras shoot 24p into a 60i container, is there a tool or a hack or any tool out there to add the pulldown flags to the AVCHD MTS file itself?

We know that every 5th frame needs to get pulled AFAIK. I have avsynth, virtual dub, plugins geez you name it to try to get over this problem, but even making the avs wrapped into an AVI still a no go on vegas pro 10.

Is there a way that we can add these pulldown flags manually to the MTS file?

IS there a tool to add pulldown flags into a video file?
and not just mpeg, video files in general, mov, avi, mp4, mts and others.


Thank you.

[poisondeathray]

is there a tool or a hack or any tool out there to add the pulldown flags to the AVCHD MTS file itself?

There are no flags to remove because the "24p in 60i" is encoded interlaced. Those extra fields are actually encoded, there are no TFF/RFF flags (ie. it's hard pulldown, not soft pulldown where you might be able to treat it as progressive or strip/ignore a flag)

You can remove pulldown (or IVTC, same thing) with avisynth using a lossless intermediate. This will work with vegas

even making the avs wrapped into an AVI still a no go on vegas pro 10

You can frameserve using avfs . Other methods like avs2avi, makeavis are flaky in my experience. Avfs works 100% of the time in all applications


If you want native progressive, some of the consumer canon camcorders record 24pN now (no pulldown) , and of course Canon DSLR's do as well

[danfuerth]

well that was quick, I am no slouch when it comes to video and audio knowledge but you gave some fine points there.

Yes everyone was pissed off that the consumer Canon cams added the pulldown when there is no need for it. I understand the reason behind it so consumers would output to the tv or dvd recorder and not having to learn anything.

I mean that mentality is from 10 years ago, why on earth are companies still limiting products with different firmwares is beyond me.

There is the new canon DSLR hacks that are very impressive, I already modded my Canon 60D DSLR.

http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki

There is the Canon HFR100 firmware update to add SDXC which I am taking a look at to see if anything can be changed on there.

Again please accept my thanks.