3D movie 50GB BD-RE Dual Layer - but will it work ?

[testing1234]

Hello,
I have a small question before I will buy a lot of things.
Will I be able to play the full frame HD 3D bluray movie disk in this way below ?

First using the pc with this:
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1x Sony Optiarc BD-5300S-0B (burner)
- BD-RE 2 x (8.990 KBps)
- BD-RE Dual Layer 2 x (8.990 KBps)
1x Sony BD-RE 50 GB disk (media)
1x A 3D movie
burn the 3d movie to the BD-RE 50 GB disk with the sony burner
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Then using the this:
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1x bravia tv (hdmi 1.4 3d)
1x Sony-BDP-S480 (3d bluray player)
and ofcourse the 3d movie.
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Does this work ?

Or do I need a other 3D bluray player ?

Greetings,
M

[hech54]

It's cheaper just to buy the original Blu Ray 3D movie.

[yoda313]

I'm not sure exactly what the question is. As long as its a 1:1 copy you are doing and keeping the ssif files where they are it will act exactly as the original disc. The only possible hiccup might be if there is that cinevia copy protection on it - that cripples audio playback - but I don't now if that alters straight rips or if it just alters media playback devices.

Since you mention using a dual layer bdr you should be able to get every bit off the original bdr onto the blank disc in the exact same order. Than the 3d bluray player will pick it up just as if it was the original.

You're only other hiccup might be the reliability of that player playing dual layer blanks. If it has a history of having issues it might not like burnt dual layer bdrs. But if it has played them before (2d's that is) than there is no reason it shouldn't work on a 3d bluray.

edit - regarding your full frame question - I'm not sure of the differences involved as I dont' have a 3d set. I only work with converted anaglyph videos (from the bluray 3d). But it will play however your bluray 3d player and 3dtv are setup to play. Again assuming this is a 1:1 rip with no conversions or anything. Whatever your player and tv can play will be doable with an exact backup of the original.

[testing1234]

Maybe, but will it work ?
Here in the Netherlands its legal to download (not upload) movies and music (not software) (and you cannot sell them).
That and a super fast internet combination is a gold combination to ask this.

Then I already have some orginal's what I want to backup.

That's why I want to know if its possible before I buy
1x Sony Optiarc BD-5300S-0B (burner) € 120,-
1x Sony BD-RE 50 GB disk (media) € 15,-
1x Sony-BDP-S480 (3d bluray player) € 140,-

[testing1234]

You're only other hiccup might be the reliability of that player playing dual layer blanks. If it has a history of having issues it might not like burnt dual layer bdrs. But if it has played them before (2d's that is) than there is no reason it shouldn't work on a 3d bluray.

I don't know this either, I read at this page http://www.crutchfield.com/S-xWqd6bUiiYt/p_158BDPS480/Sony-BDP-S480.html?tp=171&tab=detailed_info
That I support:
Blu-ray BD-ROM, BD-R (ver.1.1/1.2/1.3), BD-RE (ver.2.1)
The Sony BDP-S480 lets you enjoy 3D Blu-ray disc movies in full HD 1080p.

[yoda313]

You need dvdfabdecypter at least to rip the discs. The free version isn't updated as fast as the pay version. So if you get a new release it may take awhile to get the latest copy protection resolved. Anydvdhd is the other program that works extremely well at ripping bluray (again a pay software).

So you don't have the 3d player yet? Do you have the 3dtv yet?

Basically as long as you aren't doing any conversions and just ripping 1:1 and burning the same image nothing is changed. It will be the same as ripping a dual layer dvd and burning to a dual layer dvdr - no loss in data.

@testing 1234 - about the edit you made - unforatunately I don't have a bluray burner and have no direct experience with bluray media other than store bought bluray movies. I am afraid I can't decipher the versions next to the bd-r info or whether or not that player can reliable playback dual layer bdr.

I'd look up that model under this list:

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers

There is a bluray section. See what the user reviews say. THere should be a list of compatible media for it.

[testing1234]

So you don't have the 3d player yet? Do you have the 3dtv yet?

Basically as long as you aren't doing any conversions and just ripping 1:1 and burning the same image nothing is changed. It will be the same as ripping a dual layer dvd and burning to a dual layer dvdr - no loss in data.

Next week I have this tv http://www.sony.nl/product/t46-hx-series/kdl-46hx820
But now i'm checking with this thread what 3d player to buy.

I'm not going to use any conversions, just 1:1

A couple of years back I did buy a dvd play what was protected to play burned dvd's , I don't want to make that mistake again.

Thanks for the info.
Maybe I will try to get a copy disk to check it in the store :S I think they don't have a problem with that haha

[jman98]

A couple of years back I did buy a dvd play what was protected to play burned dvd's , I don't want to make that mistake again.

There's no such DVD player. Your real problem was either bad media, bad burn, incorrectly creating the DVD or a PAL<->NTSC problem.

[ricardouk]

There's no such DVD player

got one right here, toshiba dvd player bought in 1998, after all these years its still working perfectly but in 1998 i was unable to play dvd-r on it, only when dvd+r and the booktype trick "spread over the web" i was able to play dvdrip's on it.

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-SD-3109-DVD-Player/dp/B00000JHWX

[hech54]

There's no such DVD player

got one right here, toshiba dvd player bought in 1998, after all these years its still working perfectly but in 1998 i was unable to play dvd-r on it, only when dvd+r and the booktype trick "spread over the web" i was able to play dvdrip's on it.

Yes....and early Sony DVD players wouldn't even play CD recordables....but both of these examples are WAY more that "A couple of years back". I'm still betting on "user error" or "gross exaggeration".

[jman98]

There's no such DVD player

got one right here, toshiba dvd player bought in 1998, after all these years its still working perfectly but in 1998 i was unable to play dvd-r on it, only when dvd+r and the booktype trick "spread over the web" i was able to play dvdrip's on it.

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-SD-3109-DVD-Player/dp/B00000JHWX

You miss my point. Are you arguing like the original poster that your DVD player was deliberately "protected" to not play burnable media? And he made no claim that even the booktype trick worked.

[oldfart13]

There's no such DVD player

only when dvd+r and the booktype trick "spread over the web" i was able to play dvdrip's on it.

Sounds like he WAS able to play burned discs with booktype set to DVD-ROM...for +R discs. Just no playback of -R rips...

But the original poster...we would need to know the player. I gave all my old players like this away to goodwill years ago. Worth nothing anyway if they don't play anything...

[testing1234]

It was in the year 199x it was a correct burned disk(s) (pal).
Or it was protected to read the disks or its was not able to read it, I don't know.
I did test serveral dvd (from friends (so they did work)) but not at mine player, only originals.

I don't rembember the brand, maybe panasonic maybe not.

But that are the old days, and was not my question haha

The question was if I can make a 1:1 backup copy from a 3D bluray disk with a
1x Sony Optiarc BD-5300S-0B (burner)
- BD-RE 2 x (8.990 KBps)
- BD-RE Dual Layer 2 x (8.990 KBps)
1x Sony BD-RE 50 GB disk (media)

and play it with a sony 3d dvd player.

I think it is possible thanks for info yoda313 (about http://www.dvdfab.com) that looks very good.
It does everything I want.

The only question left is if the sony player can play it, as the other comments say it can I think.
Lets find that out in the shop

[jonnyblobby]

i'm replying to this old thread as I have been trying to find info about it myself.

I have a sony s480 player and have been attempting to use some 1:1 blu-ray 3D rips,
so far none have worked if they are dual layer 50GB discs, however single layer 3D discs work.
Even stranger is that the exact same dual layer 50GB discs work if its a 2D 1:1 copy.

(Very frustrating to find out after burning a whole stack of 3D discs)

Straggly I found that ALL the 50GB 3D discs that don't work in the s480 work fine on a PS3 (and in 3D)

At a loss as to why the s480 falls short.

[jonnyblobby]

PROBLEM SOLVED: firmware update M07.R.0579

I followed up this issue by attempting to run a 3D disc on another brand of 50GB blu-ray (in this case Verbatim BD-RE 50GB)
Before testing this disc I noticed the S480 was reporting a firmware update being available.
Before updating I tested a few of the 50GB 3D discs that hadn't worked before, they still didn't work (and the player made some disturbing noises attempting to play them too I might add)

I then updated the firmware to M07.R.0579 (30.11.2012)
After the update I was glad to see that all 3D 50GB copies now work perfectly (including BD-RE 50GB discs)

I was even about to go and buy a panasonic in defeat.