Problem with M2-edit pro 4.0.11 patch - HELP!

[devnulllore]

Hi,

I bought M2-Edit pro a while ago when I was doing freelance video editing.

I downloaded this file:

ftp://64.91.238.245/pub/patches/M2editPro/M2-edit-pro-4-0-11or17To-4-0-18-patch.zip

Which is a patch for my version up to 4.0.18

WHen I try to install the patch it comes up as corrupt. The tech suppprt people say it is ok on their server but it simply will not install.

I can open it in winrar but the test says the file is corrupt.

Anyone know where I can get a good copy of the patch?

~dev

[KingJohn]

If you use WinRAR it does report the file has being corrupt, this is because its not a WinRAR file
C:\Temp\M2-edit-pro-4-0-11or17To-4-0-18-patch.exe: The archive is corrupt

If you double click the file it unpacks to a temporary folder, if this happens to be C:\TEMP then another folder is made and 3 files are unpacked there.


_ISMSIDEL.INI
11_17T18.msp
Setup.INI

The download patch and it is working correctly....

I used WS_FTP and logged on to the FTP site at 64.91.238.245

Then went to pub/patches/

M2-edit-pro-4-0-11or17To-4-0-18-patch.exe

Your link says ".zip" ????

M2-edit-pro-4-0-11or17To-4-0-18-patch.zip

[devnulllore]

Oh sorry, the file is in fact an exe.

But, it still does not work. When I double click on it I get a windows error:

"This patch could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it is a valid Windows Installer patch package"

*shrug*

What do I do now?

~dev

[KingJohn]

First check your system for virus's, sometimes archives complain when the have things added to the executable. The file size I downloaded was 1,129Kb is this the same size you downloaded ?

I just ran it again, and it unpacked to my c:\temp\patch which I just zipped up, the file size is now 867Kb I am sure it will still work if you double click the "11_17T18.msp" which is a Windows Installer package. You should already have the new windows install program extensions installed for this to work, if not visit Microsoft Update.

If this is any use I can email the zip file to you

[devnulllore]

No viruses and the file size is different. Mine says:

1.10 MB (1,155,580 bytes)

*shrug*

Please email the file if you would be so kind.

Thanks,

[KingJohn]

Ok, sent a zip file, unpack and use "11_17T18.msp" if not Will send original split into 2

[devnulllore]

hmm, I get the same error when I run the file you sent.

[KingJohn]

Then you may need the Windows update for the MSI installations ?

[devnulllore]

Well I did all the updates. Where else can I find that?

[KingJohn]

www.microsoft.com > search > MSI Installer

I got this;

http://search.microsoft.com/default.asp?boolean=ALL&nq=NEW&so=RECCNT&ig=01&ig=02&ig=03...ller&siteid=us

Well It found a list of the MSI installer for all OS systems

[devnulllore]

Ok, I did a little poking around and found that I do in fact have the latest Windows Installer package installed. The service is running and the error is actualy a WIndows Installer error saying it cannot open the package.

Wierd.

[KingJohn]

Do you have any hacked software installed ?. This sometimes happens if you try to use an update on a program that was originally installed then hacked

Why do you need this patch anyway... The program is not all that good, it takes standard fully compliant .mpg's and makes them non standard, needing further changes to bitrates it produces.

[banjazzer]

The program is not all that good, it takes standard fully compliant .mpg's and makes them non standard

I tried using it because TMPG kept freezing on me when I tried to cut mpeg-2. Although it was brilliant at cutting, the resultant mpgs were totally out of sync, and as you say, non-standard. So I gave up on it. 8)

[devnulllore]

Well I need a program that will let me edit my MPEG-2 files.

If you can suggest a better one please do.

This is not a hack, it came with a HUGE video package my former employee bought. When the company went out of business he gave away alot of stuff. I got a TV in card and this software package.

I just wanted to make sure that version 4 was as up to date as possible to avoid bugs.

Thanks,

[KingJohn]

The program is not all that good, it takes standard fully compliant .mpg's and makes them non standard

I tried using it because TMPG kept freezing on me when I tried to cut mpeg-2. Although it was brilliant at cutting, the resultant mpgs were totally out of sync, and as you say, non-standard. So I gave up on it. 8)

Have you tried TMPGENc V12J

I had a problem with Scooby SVCD, but 12J gave no problem.

Most of the problem is the mpeg 2 support

[devnulllore]

You know what I noticed with TMPGEmepg is it's complete inability to keep audio / video sync when dealing with MPEG-2 files.

No matter what I do near the middle of my movies the audio lags about 15 frames, then it progressively gets worse.

I have even paid to get full MPEG-2 support!

No luck.

[devnulllore]

Ok. I was just diggin through the box of software I have and I came across Pinnacle Studio 7 and Power Director.

Pinnacle Studio will not let me record from my TV in card but Power Director seems to work so far, and it has a built in MPEG-2 editor.

Going to give that a try.

Has anyone tried MyFlix XE?

[banjazzer]

Have you tried TMPGENc V12J

No, that one escaped my collection. 8) I've just got hold of Beta 12j(0.11.28.112). Is that the beast? If so, how does it compare with recent versions? My main gripe with TMPG for cutting is that (apart from the sound lag when editing) the slightest attempt to adjust the position frequently freezes the program when cutting mpeg-2. Womble looks excellent, if only it actually worked. 8) What I really want is something as good as VirtualDub (or even better, Nandub) is at cutting avis.

[KingJohn]

Well you do need to keep them all, sometimes the latest release is not as good at some things as the older ones.

So are you sung TMPGEnc plus 2.57 then ? It works well with the MPEG-2 codec's that come with CyberLink (Power DVD 4) they also say Ligos and Sony codec's are supported.

It is always best to edit AVI's get them 100% before converting, having said that, I have not had sync problems with any SVCD/VCD cut's provided the originals were made good with no junk or skipped frames.

These files were not designed to be edited, so the slightest glitch will throw these programs out.

[banjazzer]

I have had problems with 2.57 converting avi to SVCD using CQ. Towards the very end I get a stream read error, yet all the mpeg appears to be there. However, it fails at the very last rewriting the SVCD header when I try to remultiplex. Strangely, earlier versions will remultiplex it fine, and it turns out OK. At first I thought it was just a faulty avi, but the second one I tried did exactly the same thing.

I don't know whether the VBR does the same, or whether it would occur if converting from DVD. So basically I've gone back to 2.56 for the time being. Anyhow, 2.58 will be along soon. 8)

What I find strange is that when cutting an mpeg-2, I find a place in PowerDVD to cut, go to that time in TMPG, and it is a completely different position. I tried Womble, and the same time gives another position again! So, the best way I've found is to close my eyes and poke wildly at the keyboard.

[BJ_M]

for software based solutions:
wobble is flaky for editing - though a good frame viewer for mpeg2 (use Elementary streams only) .. can sometimes be used. timecode and frame display in this program are really way off sometimes - converts 16:9 to 4:3 in header also i recall. (anyone got a program that can just re-write header in mpeg2 to change 16:9 to 4: 3 or the other way around? without re-encoding. since its just a header setting - not a physical thing)


M2-edit-pro-4 i find unusable, it doesnt read most mpeg files if different bit rates or aspect ratios of the parts. also unstable.

M2-edit-pro-version 3 works ok if you use Elementary streams - and you really play around with the output settings. i use this program for multicuts feature. never tried it much on multiplexed files - it ussually crashed.

TMPGEnc cuts/joins basic ok - but not frame accurate. audio is not sync'd as mentioned. though i do audio and video sep. myself anyway. i dont find usefull myself - but that is just based on i need frame editor.

sonic foundry vegas video does an excellent job of editing mpeg2 if you purchase the optional mpeg2 add-in ... plus you can make sure audio and video are insync .. i dont use it to encode to mpeg2 -- but render to avi and re-encode. frame accurate.

final cut pro (mac) i understand can do mpeg2 editing - though i dont know for sure about this.

most programs will only edit on the I frame (not a bad thing always) and dont try to reconstruct the P/B frames to a I frame for a more accurate edit. but the audio is not cut at the same point then it appears.

anyway i treat audio and video seperate myself for the most part and remember to set the audio time code to match video (if for dvd - 29.97DF - most audio wav editors default to 30fps so change it)

then there are several hardware solutions that will edit mpeg ok .

as stated - mpeg2 is not really edit friendly ..

[devnulllore]

So far for just trimming the video, Power VCR's trimmer is pretty good.

I have not tried anything special but all I need it do cut the beginning/end and commercials out.

[banjazzer]

I am just trying Power VCR at the moment. An
initial test cut at the right place but he result had pops and clicks in the audio. However, remuxing with mpeg tools seems to fix this.