Standard DVD in HD

[killerener99]

I was wondering if it was possible to put HD video (720p) on a standard DVD for playback in a standard DVD Player. I do realize that because most standard DVD Players do not have HD out that it won't display in HD.

[lordsmurf]

No.
Not any more than a car CD player will magically play a DVD.

[la_Pest]

Sure there may be other ways to do this.

One way is using the RCA jacks and a Standard DVD recorder. Running it through a scrambler like Sima's video CopyMaster. Now this is only a theory cause it's against the law :P

One thing you need to remember is the playback on what kind of TV? You will need to set up the HD set top to 4:3 for a regular SET or 16X9 for an HD set. For the recording will be resized to fit that monitor on the final disc.

[killerener99]

I want it to retain HD is whats throwing me off

[la_Pest]

You won't lose that much in quality! After all you are cramping more info on a smaller disc size. 15gig > 4.3 gigs. You can't hold HD content on a smaller disc w/o going to say a XviD format.

Being a lot of standalones have line doublers {upconvert} You shouldn't see much of a diff. Pick the amount of time capture to use the whole disc.

[killerener99]

the file size want be the problem with the length video that I want to put on there (21 min) the problem is be finding an encoder that will not lower the resolution down to 480p instead of keeping it at 720p
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I would like to know how to do it not just can it be done

[FulciLives]

I was wondering if it was possible to put HD video (720p) on a standard DVD for playback in a standard DVD Player. I do realize that because most standard DVD Players do not have HD out that it won't display in HD.

What you are asking cannot be done ... but you have alternatives.

It is possible to put 720p and even 1080p on a DVD disc but it would then be a "data disc" meaning it would not play on a standard DVD player.

However it is possible to do it in such a way that it will work with other equipment such as the Microsoft XboX 360 or Sony PS3 etc. but those are not all that cheap.

The cheapest solution is the Western Digital Media Player

This fairly inexpensive device (MSRP = $129.99 but can be bought cheaper than that) is a small box that connects to a TV and it can play 720p and 1080p video files. This box has USB 2.0 inputs and you can connect any USB 2.0 storage device like a "Thumb Drive" or external HDD.

Despite the low price it works very well. Buy a 16GB thumb drive and you can transfer just about any HDTV rip you may have on your computer and watch it on your TV.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[killerener99]

thank you FulciLives that answered my question you standard dvd players do not support that many high of resolution

[PuzZLeR]

DvD does not support HD, only up to a resolution of 720x480/576. A rez of 720p is outside the spec so you will need other options to "retain HD".

I agree with la_Pest. You will however need a special setup, such as a DivX Certified player that plays HD for a DivX/Xvid encode, or an upconverting DvD player if you do indeed re-encode this source to a compliant DvD. Both should look very good nonetheless.

[herbapou]

If you want to convert blue ray and put it on a DvD use this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

there you go, HD on a DvD. the point is dvd blank are cheaper that blue ray, lots of ppl have dvd burner and blue ray players can read those.

Not playable by a lot of dvd player, but thats the way to do it.

[jman98]

If you want to convert blue ray and put it on a DvD use this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

there you go, HD on a DvD. the point is dvd blank are cheaper that blue ray, lots of ppl have dvd burner and blue ray players can read those.

Not playable by a lot of dvd player, but thats the way to do it.

Not playable by ANY DVD only players. ONLY playable on BluRay players as this is a variety of BluRay format but on DVD discs.

[PuzZLeR]

And not every BD player can play it either - blu-ray video on a DvD disc is not in the blu-ray standard as well.

However most do, particularly those that have the "AVCHD" logo on them and the fact that there will be rising demand for this feature, which should increase the compatibility among BD players. Keep in mind, even DvD video discs aren't in the blu-ray standard either, but all blu-ray players play them as an "added feature", just like they will for blu-ray on DvD in increasing numbers.

[jman98]

PuzZLeR's post is correct, but I don't share his viewpoint that AVCHD support may increase in the future. Given how Hollywood has gotten just about everybody to stop making DVD players that can be put into region free mode, they may view AVCHD support as supporting piracy and demand that manufacturers stop supporting it since AVCHD is a popular format for pirated BluRay movies. The format was designed originally to support home movies on camcorders and it wasn't really intended to be used as a way to squeeze BluRay movies down to a smaller, but still high def size.

[PuzZLeR]

PuzZLeR's post is correct, but I don't share his viewpoint that AVCHD support may increase in the future.

Hey jman98, maybe it's my writing style... I meant to say that demand for blu-ray/HD content on a DvD will be rising (not demand for AVCHD). I still recommend looking for the "AVCHD" logo though to ensure your homemade BD on DvD discs will play for today. (This demand thing is also sure to change even more when DivX 7 matures into the marketplace.)

But I totally agree with you on the AVCHD format not being viable for the future. As well as the effort to squash piracy, the format will die because of its fading relevancy as well for two reasons.

AVCHD was never named with anything "blu-ray" just to be sure it stays alive long after any death of the blu-ray format. AVCHD I believe was an initiative by Sony et al during the format war designing a "standard" to ensure that in the event they lose, they will still have some sort of control within via cameras, etc.

As well, AVCHD is a lesser spec than the standard AVC content in blu-ray. I believe this was done to ensure that the smaller processing engines of cameras could handle it. Maybe they even had the crazy idea that it can become a viable acquisition format for software companies to design apps to better edit it than regular AVC...

At any rate, neither of these two reasons are relevant today with the format war over and cameras getting more and more powerful (and software companies still burdened by the demand to edit any form of AVC...). Add to that the abuse of the format in piracy and AVCHD will be commercially dead in due time. It may still live on in the underground for some time though...

[FireWire2]

What about stream the HD (720p/1080p) content from your PC/MAC or NAS to HD player. HDD is cheap...

Get cheap raid system, make BIG raid5/0 (up to 20 HDD)

Network your HD players like
LimHD310S and/or
EP6000B

Now you can play MKV, RMVB, M2TS, Bluray, AVI, ISO, DVD

It's up to you to convert the files or not... Most likely you do not need to ...

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[PuzZLeR]

Well, there's plenty of ways to play HD content on your TV no doubt, including the last post, but the question was whether we can do it with DvD players/DvD discs - of which the answer is "no" unless you have "features" outside of the DvD spec (or even the BD spec).