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    Hi,

    I'm looking for a free commercial editor for mpeg files that will save the edited file without re-encoding it.

    So far, I have tried:

    Videoredo: (edited file resulted in previous scenes being displayed several minutes later with blocks all over the screen for several seconds)

    Ulead Videostudio: Good commercial editor but no way to tell it not to encode files after editing

    Virtualdub: too confusing

    cutterman: wouldn't open mpeg files

    Basically I just need a fast free tv commercial editor that won't re-encode the file. Maybe someone could explain how all these tv rips from the us are done? Thanks so much!
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    I generally perform this task in TMPGEnc DVD Author as part of my authoring process.
    Earlier I was using Womble mpeg VCR to do this before authoring. Both ways have never caused any issues (provided a good and sound mpg file to begin with) whatsoever.

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    I have a guide for vdub ... it's for handling mpeg2

    https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=291744

    As for ulead videostudio ...

    https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=291181 ... when you get the cut marks into position , go back to thumbnail view , highlight first clip ... up to the left is an option to save clip (only the selected portion will be saved) .

    Repeat for each part till done ... there is NO re-rendering done .

    Read the entire guide ... version 7 need's updated dll's to fix split issue ... version 8 requires an 80mb download to fix transition problems ... which I have never seen ever happen .

    The other method was mentioned by baldrick a while back using bbmpeg to mux only specific frames , which had something to do with an avisynth script ... I think ... it was quite a while back though .

    So you might want to pm them on that .
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    Originally Posted by Bjs
    I have a guide for vdub ... it's for handling mpeg2
    Not if you want to keep it mpg, AFAIK.

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    mats.hogberg ... I did mention it's not for mpeg1 , as other tool's are involved specifically for handling mpeg2 that is ready for dvd output .

    As per "it's for handling mpeg2"

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    I think I'll leave this up to adsman as they have not specified the editing function the wish to perform ... only the fact they dont want to re-encode .
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    Yes, but the OP has mpg as input, wants mpg as output, and no reencoding - I see no way of doing that with VDub (any version).

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    Originally Posted by adsman
    I'm looking for a free commercial editor for mpeg files that will save the edited file without re-encoding it.
    What is a "free commercial" editor?
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    Have you read the documentation that comes with or on the site for cuttermarian? It does open mpeg files but you'll have a problem with that. It only works on demuxed files. As of right now it doesn't come with a de muxer but there are free ones. The one I use is bbdmux, its appart of the bbtools set. I'm not sure if this site carries a set but its easy to find.

    Get that and use bbdmux.exe do demux the files then load them into cuttermarian. When youa re done cutting select the option to mux the fiels and you are left with a nice trimmed mpeg, it even works with ac3 audio.

    Now I would also suggest that you read the documentation or at least a tutorial on it so you understand the options.
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  9. Originally Posted by Bjs
    version 7 need's updated dll's to fix split issue ...
    Bjs... what are the two dll's that need updating for Ulead VideoStudio7 and where can i get them?

    Thank you for the user guide.
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  10. Both Cuttermaran and MPEG2Schnitt will do what you want, but you have to de-multiplex the MPG files first.

    The easiest and fastest solution is TDA. It's definitely worth the investment if you are going to be doing this sort of thing regularly.
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    I've got uLead DVD Movie Factory (ver 3 SE) and it has the option to not re-encode compliant video. It even allows you to declare MPEG audio as compliant.
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    Originally Posted by AlanHK
    Originally Posted by adsman
    I'm looking for a free commercial editor for mpeg files that will save the edited file without re-encoding it.
    What is a "free commercial" editor?
    I should have said "free tv commercial editor" .
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    Thanks everyone for your input, very valuable. I will endeavour to work on your suggestions on the weekend.

    Can someone please explain though what software the groups use to rip the tv shows from the US? Like the entire process?

    I've had no problem with using Ulead Videostudio to edit out commercials of say programs like the simpsons and then autogk to compress them, but anything larger than 178MB causes quality problems which is why I'm looking for a tv commercial editor that won't re-enode.
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    Another vote for MPEGVCR. Very easy to do basic cut and paste; doesn't reencode and keeps audio in sync.

    Also has some functions like "GOP fixer" which may bring files into compliance, especially if they have weird timing codes (which lead to incorrect running time being displayed on the player and misplaced chapter points).
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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    I generally perform this task in TMPGEnc DVD Author as part of my authoring process.
    I WOULD prefer it doing this way too, but there is still the problem of TMPGEnc DVD Author not making clean edits.
    Audio/video break in DVD Author?

    That's why I always first edit my recordings with TMPGEnc MPEG Editor before authoring them with DVD Author.
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    Originally Posted by The_Doman
    there is still the problem of TMPGEnc DVD Author not making clean edits.
    Well, TDA has never caused any troubles for me. All I use it for, is authoring TV captures from my Hauppage card, so maybe other sources cause problems.

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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    ool=TMPGEnc_DVD_Author]TDA[/url] has never caused any troubles for me. All I use it for, is authoring TV captures from my Hauppage card, so maybe other sources cause problems.
    That's exactly where I use it for also: authoring TV captures from my Hauppage PVR150 cards.
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    Originally Posted by mats.hogberg
    TDA has never caused any troubles for me. All I use it for, is authoring TV captures from my Hauppage card, so maybe other sources cause problems.
    That's exactly where I use it for also: authoring TV captures from my Hauppage PVR150 cards.
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    I'd like to thank everyone for your help. Especially Bjs. I have discovered an option in Ulead Videostudio that enables me to save the edited mpg exactly like the origional source, meaning no re-encoding.

    For anyone else wondering; Once you have removed the tv commercials, click on Share, then Create Video File and choose the second option on the menu "same as first video clip". It'll save it in no time flat without re-encoding.

    I'm loving Ulead Videostudio, the ad-zapper is perfect!
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