Script to protect VCD/DVD

[d_unbeliever]

is it possible to create a script that when a VCD or DVD is inserted this script will run in the background and tries to kill or close Nero or any other copying/burning applications that will be run. Or maybe shutdown the PC entirely . maybe a script also that is capable of editing the registry wherein it will change the Autoplay CD = true?

i can do all this with a programming language i used(kill a burning program, shutdown the pc, and even forcefully and silently edit the registry), my only problem is that it needs to be installed and dll must be added to the target PC.

so i was thinking of making maybe a window script to do this which requires no installation and dll. or do you know any other programming languages that can do this. just point me to the right direction and ill do the researching and learning how to do the programming.

im doing this to MAYBE protect my VCD/DVD though it i know it is NOT possible to protect them entirely...

but my main reason is i WANT to learn this kind of things just add to my knowledge. it would be fun for me....

[Sabro]

Being a programmer myself, I can understand your quest for knowledge.

However, from your statements, I can only assume your creation will fall under the category of Malware.

Since you don't have access to install the DLLs as you said, it appears this application would be installed on a users system without their knowledge and creates a potiental DoS of local services when they may have right to legit'ly use the apps you mentioned.

No one likes malware that disables portions of their system, wether it be Anti Virus, spam scanning, or even Nero or other such apps. Don't shoot yourself in the foot on your quest for knowledge since in some locations this concept is boarderline illegal.

Also, since you can do this in another programming lang, why reinvent the wheel.....compile, create an install and legit'ly have it installed on systems with the owners permission....

Sabro

[thecoalman]

Dude if you gave me a CD that did that on purpose I'd knock your teeth out.

[d_unbeliever]

i was just only tryin a way to protect my VCD/DVD from being copied i hate copying from copyrighted CD and i hate also people copying my own created videos...well i think i better return them to my safe volt and lock them
and try to research somewhere else

[Sabro]

Wasn't ment to be a slam, but more of a heads up.

Again, as a programmer I can def undertstand where you are coming from, but it just seems like a lot of work that could be easily circumvented.

I think there is an old saying that if it can be viewed or listened to it can be copied. So you figure up a crafty measure to disable certain apps while your cd is in the drive (and return the system to a normal state when the disc has been removed ) now I come along and point my camcorder at the screen or use one of those desktop recording pgms and save your video to mpg/avi etc reauthor and reburn.

Now how are you going to re-update their systems to prevent those apps that you didnt include in the first release.

Would prolly stump alot of people till they picked up the newspaper and read about the local kiddie getting busted for camcording the newest movie at the movie complex.

Good idea in theory, just maybe needs some more reseach.

Sabro

[thecoalman]

i was just only tryin a way to protect my VCD/DVD from being copied i hate copying from copyrighted CD and i hate also people copying my own created videos...well i think i better return them to my safe volt and lock them
and try to research somewhere else

I hear microwaving works well.... Seriously though trying to protect them in that fashion could have serious consequences. I was completely serious. Messing with someones computer is almost as bad as messing with their food.

[jimmalenko]

Messing with someones computer is almost as bad as messing with their food.

"... there are only a select few things that are sacred in this world. One of them happens to be a man's fries."

- Men At Work, 1990

[ghoster]

men at work is a great flick.as far as protecting you vcd/dvds ROTFLMAO..........

[solarfox]

Whether or not it's possible, realistically, what you want to do is not a particularly good idea. One, it's legally questionable, and two, it's trivially easy to cirvumvent. (And three, anyone using Linux or a Mac will be immune to such a tactic anyway.)

You can't depend on anything being auto-run from the disc when it's inserted; anyone using TweakUI can easily disable auto-run with a simple checkbox setting, and many burner programs temporarily block auto-run while they're open in order to prevent Windows from trying to launch setup programs (or Media Player, in the case of audio CD's) when the source disc is put into the tray during a copy procedure. (Or to prevent Windows from taking a sudden interest in the disc that's being burned and thinking "Gee, that disc doesn't look the same as it did the last time I looked at that drive; I guess I'd better launch it!" right in the middle of the burn session.)

[lordsmurf]

Your "protection" sounds more like a virus.

[d_unbeliever]

now i know how to do it. use rootkit like the technology use by SONY . maybe Sony get the idea from this post just kidding!

[Bjs]

If you want to look at something rather unusual , get a copy of "up the creek" ...

This is something I would apply to my dvd's ...

Those of us who have seen it all before and know the tool's well , can get rid of this easily ... it will cause newbies alot of headaches though .

As for any other form of protection through designed implementation of "crippleware" ... an approach which use's "bad sector's" is the easiest method ...

1: Provide's some level of protection .
2: No body will want to beat the crap out of you .

There are a few old tool's lying about on specific site's ... most security site's such as http://www.astalavista.com/ , where you'll find info on bad sector's implementation .

The creation of the iso is first point ... patching is next ... burn is last .

A vcd / dvd dose not have to be entirely readable to be playable ... but with bad sector's implemented ... it may cause the pc too lockup , preventing any form of copying ... Just playing it shouldnt have any problem's .

Vcd's pose a headache simply because of the chapter's never being spot on ... but there are some good guide's online that show how to avoid specific problem's .

The one place bad sector's are never implemented , is at the start or near it of the iso image ... this will make them unreadable .

Of course it too can be bypassed just as easily ... with the right knowledge and tool's .

The best new's is it dose work under all operating system's , windows , mac , and linux ...

[Noahtuck]

Dude if you gave me a CD that did that on purpose I'd knock your teeth out.

At the very least!!!!!!!!!!

If sony and macrovision & all of the movie industry/hollywood cant keep the world from copying media, good luck, and just remember, if someones system get's messed up because of one of your disc's, just pray they are on the other side of the world and not within driving distance 8)

Because Sony bought a boatload of trouble with their fiasco, not that they prob. care as anything that happens to them from it $$$ wise is a drop in the bucket.

But i always played with the idea for many years, even before dvdr's, and i have yet to see anything worthwhile that would work

[kschang]

is it possible to create a script that when a VCD or DVD is inserted this script will run in the background and tries to kill or close Nero or any other copying/burning applications that will be run. Or maybe shutdown the PC entirely . maybe a script also that is capable of editing the registry wherein it will change the Autoplay CD = true?

The answer is no, since

1) I turn OFF autorun for the most part
2) It'll only work on Windows (What about Linux, Mac, etc?)
3) It's intrusive as heck

[Supreme2k]

if someones system get's messed up because of one of your disc's, just pray they are on the other side of the world and not within driving distance 8)

Or me, since I'd fly to freakin' Mars to tear him a new one (probably get funding from a million people, just on principle).

The answer is no, since

1) I turn OFF autorun for the most part
2) It'll only work on Windows (What about Linux, Mac, etc?)
3) It's intrusive as heck

You forgot:
4) You will be added to ad-aware and the like as a malware/spyware company, and all of your software will get flagged.

[Aeolis]

Hi folks,

Bjs could you be more specific? I did a search on astalavista site and found nothing. This subject really interests me. Could you send a private message to me or post here an explanation about your idea?

See you later,

Aeolis

[d_unbeliever]

maybe my script will not let the vcd/dvd play or be explored or copied if the autorun is disabled...

this is for learning purposes only. i don't intend to distribute this kind of rootkit protected vcd/dvd to anybody coz i also hate people messing with my pc though i oftentimes consider a challenge when a software or malwared mess up my pc...and i think you don't need my vcd/dvd anyway you got tons of them and you have other sources...

im reading now rootkit: subverting the windows kernel and it is a very interesting book about making rootkit...

[Cornucopia]

I wouldn't be too surprised if your LOCATION really was behind bars (noting your profile).

I consider what SONY et al did with rootkits extremely unethical and, while they may convince some bought judge that it's not illegal, they won't convince me. I would put you in the same boat.

If you're so good at writing apps, why don't you try writing some software that helps people?

Scott