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  1. Man Charged With Using Puppies for Shark Bait in Reunion, France.
    Sea Shepherd Reward Offer Get Results on Reunion Island


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    Dogs Used as Bait

    The dogs and cats have hooks passed through their snouts or through the tendons in their legs and the hooks are attached to lines and rods. The hapless animals are then tossed into the water where their struggles attract sharks.













    Please register your protest with the RSPCA - The website is: www.rspca.org.uk/sharkbait

    On August 18th, Sea Shepherd Conservation Society posted a reward for the arrest on La Reunion island of anyone responsible for using live dogs or cats as bait for sharks.

    To utilize puppies and kittens as live shark bait has been a “tradition” on La Reunion, and despite it being a violation of French law, the practice has continued without violators being arrested.

    Sea Shepherd provided some motivation with a reward of €1,000 for the first arrest and conviction of any person caught using live dogs or cats as bait.


    This week the first violator was charged as a result of an effort by police to investigate the practice. The man will appear in court on September 30th. If convicted Sea Shepherd will pay the arresting officer the reward of €1,000. Sea Shepherd will pay €200 to the arresting officer for every successful conviction thereafter.


    The following letter was sent to the Chief of Police on La Reunion Island:

    To: The Police
    La Reunion Island

    The international Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is offering a reward of 200 Euros to any police officer who successfully enforces the law prohibiting the use of dogs and cats as bait for the catching of sharks.

    The Society is offering a reward of 1,000 Euros for the first conviction and 200 Euros for each conviction thereafter.

    The reward will be paid upon the successful conviction of any person found guilty of using dogs or cats as bait in shark fishing as defined by the laws of France that specifically outlaw this practice.

    Sea Shepherd Conservation Society wishes to advise all police captains that they may submit the names of officers who have arrested suspects for using dogs or cats as shark bait and that the reward will be paid directly to the officer or officers upon a successful conviction.

    Sincerely


    Captain Paul Watson
    President
    Sea Shepherd Conservation Society


    La Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Internationale offrira une récompense de 200 Euros à tout officier de police qui renforcera de manière efficace la loi interdisant l’ utilisation de chiens en tant qu’ appât pour attrapper les requins.

    La Sea Shepherd Conservation Society offrira une récompense de 1000 Euros pour la première inculpation et 200 Euros pour chaque suivante.

    La récompense sera versée au terme de chaque inculpation réussie de toute personne reconnue coupable d’utilisation de chiens en tant qu’appât pour pêcher des requins. Comme il est clairement specifié par les lois de la France, cette pratique est absolument interdite.

    La Sea Shepherd Conservation Society tient à informer tous les capitaines de police qu’il pourra s’avérer necessaire de fournir les noms des officiers
    ayant arrêté les suspects responsables de l’utilisation de chiens en tant qu’appât à requins. La récompense sera versée directement à ou aux officiers responsables de l’inculpation réussie des dits suspects.

    Sincèrement,

    Captain Paul Watson
    President
    Sea Shepherd Conservation Society
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    Using dogs for bait....that's cruel. Cat's.... well who gives a f*** but dogs?
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    I could have gone through life without ever needing to see that.... Thanks offline. Anyone want to take a trip to France?


    Sadly, I don't think the reward will be enough motivation to control this practice. What they should do is take the guy they caught and pass hooks through his legs and throw him overboard. See how he likes it.
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    I agree with SHADOWMISTRESS. Makes me sick people can be so inhumane
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  5. Originally Posted by Shadowmistress
    What they should do is take the guy they caught and pass hooks through his legs and throw him overboard. See how he likes it.
    My feelings precisely. Some people are just filth. I am ashamed that they are even in the same species as the rest of us.
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    My sentiments exactly, Cobra.



    Offline,

    I nearly puked when I saw the dog picture. Please put a warning in your title.
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    Originally Posted by Cobra
    Originally Posted by Shadowmistress
    What they should do is take the guy they caught and pass hooks through his legs and throw him overboard. See how he likes it.
    My feelings precisely. Some people are just filth. I am ashamed that they are even in the same species as the rest of us.


    Just when you didn't think you could get more pissed and hate some people in the world more than you already do

    If i typed my true thought's i would prob. be banned!!!!!!

    Originally Posted by thecoalman
    Using dogs for bait....that's cruel. Cat's.... well who gives a f*** but dogs?
    My cat would SOOOOooooooooo kik yer @$$ for that!!!
    Then the Chow would clean you up
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    Originally Posted by Noahtuck
    Originally Posted by thecoalman
    Using dogs for bait....that's cruel. Cat's.... well who gives a f*** but dogs?
    My cat would SOOOOooooooooo kik yer @$$ for that!!!
    Then the Chow would clean you up
    Glad somebody mentioned that. I forgot that I forgot to.
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    holy shuckin fit!!! This has got to be one of the most disturbing things that I have ever seen...

    Originally Posted by Shadowmistress
    Sadly, I don't think the reward will be enough motivation to control this practice. What they should do is take the guy they caught and pass hooks through his legs and throw him overboard. See how he likes it. mad.gif
    through his legs nothin! Take him and hook him through the b@!!s
    just a thought

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    wasn't this a photochop?

    by the way has anyone ever tasted dog? If not then surely most guys here have tasted a bit of pussy at least once in their lives
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    Originally Posted by MackemX
    wasn't this a photochop?
    The photo displayed at the head of this page, which has adorned several news articles and humane society-related web pages on this topic, remains a subject of debate. Proponents claim it as documentary evidence of a cruel shark-fishing practice on Réunion Island, while doubters maintain it is a completely unrelated photograph of an accidental entanglement that has been mistakenly or deceptively misused for publicity's sake.
    That's according to Snopes... I'm too lazy to go back and find the URL. The other part of the article did state that this does happen though and the arrest mentioned above is in fact true.

    A Photochop or what snopes mentioned above is plausible though, I do quite a bit of fishing. So from experience...... In the first picture it appears the hooks pass through the "lips" of the dog. If that's the case most likely the flesh would quickly rip and you would lose your "bait". Of course I don't fish for sharks so they just be throwing them overboard into shark infested waters, I'd imagine sharks just take one giant gulp... Also note in the bottom left it appears that there is a collar worn by this animal, also looks like it was chopped above it....

    In the pictures where the hooks go through the paws of the animal you'll notice that it appears the hooks don't penetrate the paws of the animals. I'd say they are faked, can't catch fish or sharks without barb....... Additionally those hooks are quite small, that's about the size you would see being used for larger fresh water fish if you were using smaller bait. Probably the most glaring piece of evidence to suggest they are faked is the fact the hooks have what appears to be nylon line attached. You'd need a steel leader for catching fish with teeth. We don't even use nylon here for catching muskies which are essentially freshwater sharks. :P


    by the way has anyone ever tasted dog? If not then surely most guys here have tasted a bit of pussy at least once in their lives
    Taste like chicken. :P
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    Here's a better pic of the collar or whatever is there.

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    chop or not, it's a good traffic flow diverter though seeing as over 170,000 people have signed the petition. Signing up will probably get you more emails/letters sent to you. I wonder how many have donated also. Could be more if offline fixed his link and don't get me wrong I support places like the RSPCA and see nothing wrong with this even if it was fake 8)

    I don't think it's been chopped at the collar but rather the body of the dog is just outta focus being further away . Same happens with the arm and ear
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    Originally Posted by MackemX

    I don't think it's been chopped at the collar but rather the body of the dog is just outta focus being further away . Same happens with the arm and ear
    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, wrong..... The plot thickens,

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    look at the loop on the wire, it's also outta focus as it's nearer the camera (you can just see the loop in your last pic). Picture looks fine to me as the collar matches up, apart from the hooks being a bit dubious



    that pic you just posted is probably nearer the original. The other pics have just discoloured and degraded due to multiple copy savings.




    I'd like to see the complete picture seeing as the corners are missing


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    Here see the video for yourself, one other thing I noticed is that the person appears to be wearing scrubs.... that's what they are. It's a vet, most likely that dog got caught up in the hooks, I've even had my own dog get hooks in it's paws. Doesn't take much.

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    I don't doubt that this is happening but those pics are taken out of context, additionally this was originally posted by a group who's goal is the preservation of marine life. I'd imagine though this is a very isolated group of fisherman doing this, probably a few who have been doing it for years and years...... Wrong? Absolutely but it's not my business to stick my nose in theirs.

    Moral of the story: Whacko activists will stoop to any level to accomplish their goal.
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    ouch!, why are they just standing, talking and then prodding the dog? Anesthatize the poor thing and get the damn hook out
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    Maybe they had him earmarked for the shark?
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    Originally Posted by Shadowmistress
    Maybe they had him earmarked for the shark?
    C'mon, the dog has a collar on.... I'm sure if they used dogs for bait they could find one that didn't belong to someone. As I mentioned above, if it was hooked like that the hooks would easily become dislodged. Trust me, I've fished my entire life. Baiting a hook no matter what the bait is essentially the same, that wouldn't be it. At the very least if your were baiting it from the head you would want part of the hook going through the jaw.
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    I thought the pics above were bad when I saw them. Are they photochops? Probably. But knowing that this stuff does happen and the guy got caught for it, and then hearing you describe what the "proper" baiting technique is, does not make for pretty images in my head.

    If "real" pictures of this existed and look how you describe they should, I'd want to punch out the person who showed them to me, even if they were trying to save those animals. I'm glad they don't exist and I don't blame anyone for creating the chops to draw attention. You can't exactly call it misleading if the pics are an understatement.
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    @SM, did you watch the video? The first pic (worst of them all) is definitely not a photochop . There is a higher quality link if you click the Consulter cette séquence en haut débit below



    have you seen the part where he pinches and twists the dogs nose and it sticks it's tongue out
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    Oh stop!!! Eeeek! Shut up!!!!

    Hell no I didn't watch the video and you can't make me!
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    Originally Posted by Shadowmistress
    I'm glad they don't exist and I don't blame anyone for creating the chops to draw attention.
    The first is real the second set may be real but I'm guessing it's just a couple of dog's that got accidently hooked. It doesn't take much, especially with the smaller hooks in the second set of pics. I've even hooked myself on more than one ocassion , my cousin got hooked so bad we had cut the hook and push it through....

    What's really sad is those pics could have possibly even been staged by the ones who claim to be wanting to help those animals... it's happened before. I don't trust anything I see published by any of those groups, many are too far extreme and are more than willing to to use any means to further there cause.

    Originally Posted by MackemX
    The first pic (worst of them all) is definitely not a photochop .
    Photochop it isn't, probaly just a picture of a dog that was a little too curious. IMO
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    Originally Posted by thecoalman
    Originally Posted by MackemX
    The first pic (worst of them all) is definitely not a photochop .
    Photochop it isn't, probaly just a picture of a dog that was a little too curious. IMO
    what is the guy saying about that dog in the video seeing as it's in French?

    Parle vous le Francais?

    aren't Canadians French?
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    Originally Posted by MackemX

    aren't Canadians French?
    Now there's some real bait, I could piss the French and the Canadians off in one shot.

    Edit: I edited my quote or quoted my edit...
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    Originally Posted by MackemX
    aren't Canadians French?
    Some of us speak it yes, but not the majority.

    And no, you can't make me watch it! :P
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    Originally Posted by Shadowmistress
    Anyone want to take a trip to France?
    La Reunion is one of the Mascarene Islands off the coast of Madagascar. I guess it's still a French possession even though I thought Rowley captured it for the King back in the Napoleonic era
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