is the new 2 pass vbr in tmpg plus the best

[smokingweed3000]

Hey
Is the new 2 pass VBR in TMPG PLUS 2.53 the best in terms of quality?
and what about encoding time?
Thanks

[SingSing]

Er, it was slightly worst then quality(slow) compare to version 12.
But it is faster. Like the man said qaulity vs time.

[SatStorm]

For CCIR 601 output (720 X 576 (480), the old good ver 12 is better. It is TERRIBLE slow also
For SVCD, CVD/D2-DVD and VCD/D4DVD/D4SVCD, latest beta is much better

[Lamont Cranston]

The 2 pass VBR for DVDs with TMPGEnc plus is sad. In scenes with high motion the video bit rate barely moves off the average let alone go near the max. You are not going to believe this but I get much better results using the Ligos encoder in Ulead's MediaStudio Pro V6.5. To get equivalent quality with TMPGenc the file size grows significantly. TMPGEnc was great for vcds and svcds but not for dvds unlees I am missing something.

[kabanero]

I did a bunch of test with TMPGEnc and was getting blockiness on fast motion scenes and artifacts in dark scenes. But one time I tried one thing and achived almost perfect video quality. How?:

I use frame size 352x480 instead of 720x480 and I don't get blockiness at all (just little bit on very very fast motion like water waves in the pool).
And MPEG-2 @352x480(interlaced) is the compiant MPEG-2 for DVD video.

[J Crew]

I did a bunch of test with TMPGEnc and was getting blockiness on fast motion scenes and artifacts in dark scenes. But one time I tried one thing and achived almost perfect video quality. How?:

I use frame size 352x480 instead of 720x480 and I don't get blockiness at all (just little bit on very very fast motion like water waves in the pool).
And MPEG-2 @352x480(interlaced) is the compiant MPEG-2 for DVD video.

so you can encode at 352x480 and still record it to DVD? sorry, but i'm extremely new to this, and i just burned my first dvd the other night and was disappointed with the quality. i used ulead movie factory to encode and have been considering tmpegenc, but am unsure what the advantage would be to use this program.

if i encoded at 352x480, how much would it effect the quality of the video, and how big is the picture when played on a standalone dvd player to a television? thanks for any help, peace

[kabanero]

if i encoded at 352x480, how much would it effect the quality of the video, and how big is the picture when played on a standalone dvd player to a television? thanks for any help, peace

It may be strange, but when I encode with TMPGEnc at 352x480 I get much better video quality (no blockiness in fast motion and no artifacts in dark scenes) than at 720x480 because the same amount of bits/sec covers twice smaller horizontal area. MPEG-2 at 352x480 (interlaced) is the valid DVD stream. And when you play it on your standalone dvd player, its decoder will stretch the picture horizontally to make it 720x480, so you will watch the full picture with 4:3 ratio on your TV.
Also there are other important setting when you encode your video to MPEG-2.
I guess that Movie factory comes with Ligos encoder, and it is not very good encoder.

Hope this helps.

[J Crew]

thanks for the info and help kabanero. so when the video is stretched on the television... it still looks good? no distortions or abnormalties?

guess i'll find out soon anyways once my dvd-r's get here in the mail. hoping they'll be here tomorrow... then i'll just try it for myself. thanks again, peace

[quote="kabanero"]

Also there are other important setting when you encode your video to MPEG-2.
I guess that Movie factory comes with Ligos encoder, and it is not very good encoder.

Hope this helps.

oh... what other settings are you using? i'm about to download tmpegenc right now and try it out. so when i get my dvd-r's in... i can go straight to burning. thanks.

[mikerios]

you can also encode at 704x480 as it too is dvd complaint ( ntsc ) and have better resoltion that 352x480. I use the 704x480 for 2 hour 30 min movies with very good results ( audio at 224, cq of 75 , max 5200 29fps, non interlaced )

[smokingweed3000]

so basically I better use TMPG Enc 12a for encoding SVCDs, should I use the 2 pass vbr in 12a or something else?
thankx

[Kdiddy]

so basically I better use TMPG Enc 12a for encoding SVCDs,

No, I would use Cinema Craft, but thats just my opinion.

[smokingweed3000]

ok
but I already knows how to use tmpg and i dont want to go and learn how to use CCE (which i have too). I still want to know if 12a is better then 2.53 PLUS for SVCDs, and if it is then should I use 2 pass vbr or anything else?
Thanks a lot

[smokingweed3000]

sorry for bumping but i have another question, if I use CCE could someone reccomend some settings, I heard that CCE offers the 5 pass VBR does that give you better quality then tmpg.
Thanks again

[Kdiddy]

I have a guide if you want it, contact via email or through PM