DVD+R may have DVD-R on the ropes!

[ejai]

I pesonally own a Panasonic E30 dvd-r/ram standalone recorder, and was interested in which format dvd +/- was winning in the format wars. I was surprised to find that the leader might be dvd+r.

I also noticed that the shelf stock of blank recordable disks are being stocked for the dvd+r format. I noticed this in Circuit City stores as well as J&R Compter World, just to name a few.


Is this a sign that DVD+R ( the format that Microsoft backs) is making head way over the DVD-R format?

Here is a link I found that sort for explains what I am saying more clearly
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/17907

Let me know what you think.

ej

[Bob W]

My local Circuit City, CompUSA and BestBuy are usually out of DVD-R simply because it's sold the day they put in on the shelve. The DVD+R just sits there with a few sold here and there.

[ktnwin]

ejai,
have you check by clicking on DVD Players button on the left, then find out how many DVD players out there support DVD-R, and how many support DVD+R.
You may be in big surprise, DVD-R support is twice DVD+R support.

[ejai]

No I haven't check the list, but I will now. I hope you're right. I've spent a lot of money on this format and would hate to see it go under in such a short life span.

thanks,
ej

[macleod]

There was a VERY lengthy post about the DVD-R vs DVD+R war a month or so ago. Got very bloody. Hope another war doesnt break out overt his subject line.

[MJPollard]

There was a VERY lengthy post about the DVD-R vs DVD+R war a month or so ago. Got very bloody. Hope another war doesnt break out overt his subject line.

Three topics never to be discussed in polite company (provided you want it to remain polite, that is):

1. Abortion.
2. Religion.
3. Gun control.
4. DVD-R versus DVD+R.

[arcorob]

Amen !!!

P.S. - Long Live DVD+R and may DVD-R stay right there with 8 tracks and pet rocks -- LOL - JUST TWEAKING BACK

[ktnwin]

for DVD-R versus DVD+R, just use facts and do not let your own feelings come into play. That should be allright.
War got started when feelings got out of control.

[Bob W]

Two weeks ago my local CompUSA had a sale on their brand of 1x DVD-R. I got to the store one hour after they opened the doors and bought the last 50 they had.

[ember]

Forget Coalition vs Iraq

DVD-R vs DVD+R is for the big guns.

[Nolonemo]

Who cares? Get a life!

[jeex]

Who cares? Get a life!

alot of people do. the companies who make the products, the investors, the buyers, the companies who make the technology that utilizes it. millions of people do.


personally, i like dvd-r.. dvd+r is kinda cool too, but all the "features" it has over dvd-r die compared the compatibility that dvd-r has.

[SLICK RICK]

The local BestBuy in my area cannot even keep Verbatim DVD-R stocked for more than a day. But you can go any day and get DVD+R, I have nothing against DVD+R but I am just stating the facts

[starwarrior29]

It's the same thing at my local Best Buy, they never have Verbatim DVD-R but always have the Verbatim DVD+R. Even on their site it says the DVD-R's are not available for local pickup but the DVD+R's are.

[Bondiablo]

1. Abortion.
2. Religion.
3. Gun control.
4. DVD-R versus DVD+R.

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. Who the **** do I look like, Solomon?

[verchad]

It's the same situation in my area. I've got two best buys, circuit city, and office max. They always have +r in even when they are on sale. As for the -r if you don't get there within a few hours of opening, they are gone. I've got a panasonic dmr-hs2 and a cendyne/pioneer 104, but I wish I had a +r/-r burner for the computer just to have all bases covered.... that is until blue ray or any other next best thing comes along.

[Bravoxena]

that's why i'll be waiting another year before considering dvd writing. at least i can be sure on a standard, and also be able to get it cheap!

[Quigonsean]

Neither format are going anywhere regardless of which is, get, or anything else more popular. By the blue ray will be affordable, common, and we'll all be fightin over which Blue Ray standard is the best, cause Sony and Toshiba both have or are releasing competeing standards. (Again) Burn what you like they'll both be 'round along time. Speaking of burning one, its time to go have a smoke. "Till then, ta ta

Sean

[Bob W]

Does it really matter as long as the finished disc plays in your stand alone player?

[Revilo]

Amen Bob, finally someone with some sense.

[CaptainC]

I dont think that you can really judge these formats by how many DVDs are on the shelf you could say that DVD-R has such popular sales of disk because their cheaper than DVD+R. The truth is that it will really come down to speed!. I do not know of any news to build DVD-R drives capable of using these disks. Ihave see a few of these faster drives in the shops but all have been DVD+R and i myself have updated my firmware on my drive to use these discs.
The reality is that DVD+R was developed from DVD-R and that is evolution i would imagine that in fact if either of these drives are to become obsolete it will happen over the life span of our machines and just as CD writers cost about the same price when they were released compared to now well be throwing these away for faster and better products perhaps they come up with yet another format who knows does it really matter for some maybe but my discs play what more do you want.

[ejai]

I agree and yes they play for now, my only concern is will either of these formats be obsolete before the manuals are printed. What I'm concerned about is wether the newer dvd players will accomodate both formats or one.

ej

[rkr1958]

Three topics never to be discussed in polite company (provided you want it to remain polite, that is):

1. Abortion.
2. Religion.
3. Gun control.
4. DVD-R versus DVD+R.

My counting may be off ... but isn't that four topics?

[Remco]

Here in the Netherlands DvD-R is more popular than DvD+R.
The DVD+RW recorders are a little cheaper than the DVD-RW drives but the DVD-R media is more available/cheaper here...

DvD-R SEEMS to be more compatible on stand alone players...

1xmedia for 1euro
2xmedia for 1,5euros
4xmedia for 4euros

on spindles that is...

gr.
Remco

[mrdisky]

Sheesh, who cares, unless yer a total Puter NOOB you should be used to buying hardware and having it become obsolete! It works now, all that matters

[Cyrl]

I'd just point out that using the DVD players list on the left for compatability is a bit silly... most of the players in that list are discontinued anyway and the total number of players is not weighted, if there were only 5 types of DVD players in the world and DVD-R worked on type 1 through 4 and not on type 5, and DVD+r worked on type 5 and not on 1 through 4... that means there are four times as many player types it works on.. but.. waht if type 1 through 3 were discontinued models, and only 50 were left in the world, and type 4 had 150... but type 5 has 500 units in operation.... well then, you now have DVD-R working on 200 players and DVD+R working on 500... the number of players types it works on is irrelevant, besides, any 50 dollar DVD player made after about june of 2002 will play either... and be better than the 300 dollar player you bought in 2000...

[PhilipL]

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[doug1937@hotmail.com]

What I find strange is that DVD+R boasts that it was designed with compatibility in mind, but regardless, DVD-R is more compatible than it is. I bought a Memorex 4x +R burner, and while I'm happy with it, I wish I'd bought a -R drive, since it has better compatibility and the media is cheaper.

And that, my friends, might be a big part of the reason why DVD-R media might sell more quickly than +R media. Not only do you have all the -R owners buying it, but you also have the +/-R owners buying it, since -R is cheaper than +R. I wanted to get one of those drives that burn both types, and regret breaking down when I saw a low price. But if I had bought a drive that burned both -R and +R Lord knows I'd be stocking up on -R discs, since you can get better deals than with +R discs.

[Jester700]

I keep seeing all these techy reasons that -r is supposed to be more compatible. But NO good tests have proven this, and my own very limited and unscientific experience shows +r as more compatible. So do some others (though still others disagree). Though my Sony burner can do either, I still use -r because it's either faster (I can get 4x media for it) or cheaper (under a buck for 1x blanks). If I were into the mid speed, I might get +r media, as it is competitive with 2x -r (and before 4x -r media was cheap, that's what I did).

The forum is NOT the be-all end-all of compatibility. Media reflectivity seems to be the biggest bear, and that is a totally different issue from whatever standards the forum promotes. I've had both, and don't really have a preference.