Capture is limited 4 gigs

[Izzie]

Have been trying to capture off video tapes to burn to vcd, xvcd, or even dvd, but windows limitation are 4 gigs....have tried to convert hard drive to non fat 32, but each time it wipes the hard drive and when I load and restart it goes back to Fat 32...anyone else have this problem, its a new hard drive W.D. and am running XP.....have contacted Microsoft and they don't seem to be able to understand what's happening, I need to get out of fat 32 and into Ntfs......
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[Marco33]

I have XP and I converted so, it is possible.

I dont' understand what you are saying.

have tried to convert hard drive to non fat 32, but each time it wipes the hard drive and when I load and restart it

You try converting but you use the words, " wipes clean", load (meaning load XP again?)

[Izzie]

I seem to be going in circles, new hard drive, windows me with windows XP on top loaded, it goes in as Fat 32, go into Dos command and use the Convert C:/ command, get a message that says by converting it wipes out all information on the drive, which is what it does, the computer just sits there, you can turn it on and off, nothing happens, you can't get back in until you put your cd back in and reload everything, then you're back to Fat 32.........I have even tried zeroing everything out and still have the same problem, like I said going in circles, I seem to be stuck with Fat 32 and I can't get out of it.............

[Vejita-sama]

Top loaded? It sounds like you have installed both winME and winXP on your system. Is that correct? If so did you install them on different partitions? Can you boot to one or the other, or only winME?

Did you install winXP on/as a NTFS partition or fat32?

Ok two things. First what program are you using to capture. VDub and AVI_IO allow you to capture using a 'spill system' (check the faq to the left for how to enable). This will spilt your capture up into several files (you can set size I normally use 1.9GB)

Second, you should confirm that you have two partitions on your HD, and install winXP as a NTFS partition on one of them (or if winXP has been installed on one as fat32 switch it to NTFS).

Again thou your post is a little confusing. Are you running winME or winXP, how many partitions do you have, etc.

[kitty]

A program like Partition Magic will help convert partitions well.

[Sartori]

learn how to use multi segment capture in virtual dub (do a search) , it`ll carry on capping until your HD(s) fill up , it`ll span the cap across HDs if it needs to as well . (verjitas suggested just about the same thing , NB multi segment mode is the sameish as a spill system mode , just 2 different names )
Then either frameserve the segments into your encoder or turn on multi segment/sequential input in tmpgenc (if you use that) .
Why do it this why ? er... because it`ll cost you nothing .

I personally wouldn`t put ntfs on one disk and fat32 on the other , why ? because you won`t be able to acccess the ntfs one if you boot into your fat32 operating system .

[Thorn]

I'm not really sure why you'd want to run both ME and XP, unless there's some obscure program that runs in ME but not XP. If you really have to stick with both, then you'll have to have the primary partition as fat32 (or how else would ME run?), or just use segmented capture. Not all programs do segmented capture, but it's obviously the easiest solution.

If you insist on keeping ME and running NTFS, you'll basically need to have your drive partitioned so that the OS is on a fat32 system and the capture drive is in NTFS. I have no idea what this convert program you're talking about does... but I doubt it's the fat32 to NTFS converter for windows... In win2k I can select to convert a drive to NTFS in the computer manager (I don't remember exactly where off the top of my head)... it likely wouldn't work with dos because standalone dos doesn't understand NTFS, you need the command interpreter included with windows (so it does the conversion when it's starting windows).

Or, as kitty says, use partition magic (which gives you complete control over the drives, partitions, and filesystem formats).

As you can see, segmented capture is the easiest way to solve this if you don't know how to do the rest.

[Izzie]

I have a full version of Me with an XP upgrade on top of it, should I remove the old Me files???Is it possible that this is part of the problem???When I type in, at the Dos prompt, the convert message I get a message back that says everything will be wiped out on that drive which is a 200 gig, and it means it, I have tried over and over to do this. I put in the convert command, wait while it converts and there is nothing there. Windows never comes back up, the Computer just stays on, you can just turn it on and off with the switch, nothing ever loads up, there isn't even a dot on the screen..... there is no partitioning....I have tried my boot disks, putting in Me with the XP upgrade, it doesn't do anything, doesn't load, I have to put in the utility disk, zero everything out and I am back to where I was in the first place........would just purchasing the full version of XP be any different???Would it allow me to just start off in NTFS????

[Thorn]

If you installed the upgrade, doesn't it replace windows ME? It should back up the old files, but that doesn't mean you have both installed and runnable at once, does it?

Ok, I realize that my in-windows command may have been part of partition magic so you're using the right utility. Are you running it like this?
convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs
So what happens after it finishes? Do you let it finish? Does it give you any message? It sounds like it's never completing, and you reset it and reinstall windows me which obviously will set you back to the starting point.

Are you meaning that your entire main hard drive was wiped or just a secondary drive? If you have no drives with data, you can probably just install windows xp clean rather than just upgrading from winme. Otherwise concentrate on getting winxp installed correctly and let it convert to NTFS while it installs winxp if it give you the option.

[housepig]

I think I might see the problem -

You have a full version of WinME and an upgrade version of XP - so you have to have WinME on first to upgrade to XP.

If this is correct, this could be your problem - WinME runs on a FAT 32 format. It will not run on NTFS. So if you install WinME, then upgrade to XP, the XP install is not reformatting your drive as NTFS.

But if your XP version is an upgrade version, you will not be able to install it from scratch, only "on top" of another Windows version.

I would suggest that you get a stand-alone, non-upgrade copy of XP and try that.

hope this helps. If I'm mistaken in how I think you're hooked up, post what I'm missing and maybe we can get this figured out.

- housepig

[Izzie]

I have tried installing XP and just putting in Me for a second or two for recognition and then back to XP cd. Whatever I seem to do when I put in the Convert .....to Ntfs, I get a message that this will wipe all my data out and it does..........it does the conversion and I just leave it alone and when I come back the computer is on, the hardrive light is solid yellow and on and there's is nothing there, you can just shut off the computer by the switch, which you normally cannot do in XP.........I may try the full version, of course I am waiting to hear from Microsoft when they get back to work on Monday, maybe they will have some kind of information, so far I am stuck, I have a non=partioned 200 gig hardrive and I want the whole thing in NtFs so I can do one hour videos of my favorite shows without the program halting after 20 min, then 18 min, 15 min, and so on.....................

[housepig]

are you working on a 200Gb hard drive with one big partition?

try this - partition the drive as 2 100Gb partitions. Install WinME and your XP upgrade on one partition.

Using whatever partition tool you want, partition the empty partition to NTFS.

- housepig

[Izzie]

O.K. went and got a full version of XP, haven't loaded anything else, I was able to get it to go in as ntfs, but it only recognized 127 gigs of the hard drive, how do I get it to recognize the whole 200 gigs?????

[MikeV]

Check for BIOS updates for your Intel motherboard. Older ATA controllers(33,66,&100) can only see up to 127gig hard drives, some ATA100 controllers can be updated to handle over 200 gig hard drives.

[Hulmey]

I had the same problem when i was first trying to upgrade to xp from win98. Make sure u choose the full installation option from the upgrade disc , but when it all starts to load make sure u read the screen properly it is pretty easy to miss how to convert to ntfs.
U should start from scratch and reformat ur harddrive (I had 2 do this by reloading win98 as the upgrade disc of xp wouldn't do it) Then use the xp upgrade and choose the ntfs option . U should then have ur full capacity of hd space and be able to use files over 4gb.
Hope this makes sense