Naming Streams in Scenarist?

[SaSi]

I was wondering how it may be possible to name two different audio and subpicture streams in Scenarist. The case is for a title that has two English soundtracks, first is the original movie and the second is the Director's commentary. Subpictures should be named accordingly.

Scenarist allows to set the stream attribute to any language, so both audio streams would be named English. How can I rename the second audio stream into "COMMENTARY" ?

Any Scenarist Guru around ?

[Bish0p]

i don't quite understand, did you just want to rename the tracks in scenarist? i presume you have one video piece with 2 audio tracks do you have a sub picture as well?

[SaSi]

I have a single movie stream and two audio streams, both in English but the first is the movie soundtrack and the second has the director's comments. So, I want the first audio stream to be named "ENGLISH" and the second to be named "COMMENTARY". Equaly, I have two subpicture streams, one English for the movie dialogues and another for the director's commentrary. So I want the first Subpicture stream to be named "ENGLISH" and the second subpicture named "COMMENTARY".

[damnim]

You can rename the files in the "Data Editor" tab by selecting the file and going to the "property browser" window where it says "name" type in what you want to name the file.

You can also rename your tracks in the "Track Editor" by selecting the track, going to the "property browser" window and double clicking on the "data folder" unless it's already opened and typing in a new name.

You will notice then that everywhere this file is located in scenarist it will have the new name.

[SaSi]

Perhaps my question was not phrased accurately.

I have seen multiple tracks on DVD players being given names by the DVD player. I know that at most, the names come out of their attributes and relate to different languages, e.g. ENGLISH, SPANISH, etc.

However, several director's cut DVDs have english tracks with commentary by the director. These tracks are not named ENGLISH but COMMENTARY.

Other DVDs have alternate soundtracks, e.g. THX and Dolby Digital. These tracks are sometimes named ENGLISH THX and ENGLISH DD-2CH instead of ENGLISH and ENGLISH.

This is what I am trying to achieve. Author the DVD with tracks being named more informatively. I tried to rename the tracks in Data editor, however the name appears to be used only within the Scenarist environment. Doesn't seem to survive into the DVD.

[damnim]

The only other way I know of is this;

Go to the "Scenario Editor" right click the "VTS" folder, select "Audio Application Mode (VTS)... The window "Audio Application Mode" pops up.

Select your audio stream number, in the second row to the far right "EXT:" select a new name ie normal captions, director's comments 1.

I will do some research to see if there is a way to modify this further.

Since I use the menu for audio streams, I have never used this option.

8)

[Bish0p]

will scenarists Text extension do the same job, or will it just name the whole/parts of the title

[SaSi]

dammin,

thanks for the tip on the audio tracks. I corrected the extension on the second audio track. After re-muxing and generating the VOB files and burning, I will re-try it to see what I get. I think this will do the trick for the audio tracks. Would be nice to have free text naming, but even this is ok.

Tried to investigate possibilities regarding the subpicture streams, but ran out of pop-up menus and no luck. Anybody with an idea on subpictures?

[damnim]

Bish0p

The "Text Extension" in Scenarist is similiar in function to CD Text. You can put a name to the Disc and names to the titles. On DVD players that have the text function on them the name of the Disk will be displayed as well as the Ptt's or titles that were named. It will not however name audio or subpicture streams.

SaSi

If you use the method I described depending on your software player when you select "audio" it will show the name you selected, ie. normal captions, Director's Comments. I have done a search of the manual and done some experimenting and to my knowledge there is no way in Scenarist to;

Would be nice to have free text naming

Maybe in a later version of Scenarist they will incorporate this.

What do you mean about the Subpictures exactly? Are you looking to rename them also?

8)

[SaSi]

Yes. In the example I have given, the movie has two soundtracks and two subpicture tracks. The first soundtrack and subpicture stream is the normal movie soundtrack and subpictures for a given language, while the second set are director's comments over the original soundtrack and director's comments subpictures.

Because both subpicture streams are in the same language, as the soundtracks, it would be useful to be able to name each subpicture stream as
Stream 1: {LANGUAGE}
Stream 2: {LANGUAGE} COMMENTARY
for the viewer to be able to identify each one.

It appears that Scenarist provides the means to do that for soundtracks, however I have yet to find a way to "add" the similar attribute to the subpictures stream.

I suppose there is an "official" way to achieve this within the DVD specifications, since my DVD player (yamakawa 215) and also IFOEdit provide this differenciation between the different subpicture streams in the original DVD.

A supplementary way to select streams in an easy way is to create a menu where the viewer will select "Director's Comments" and the menu will set the appropriate system parameters to the appropriate audio and subpictures id.