TMPGEnc: Inverse Telecine + deinterlace?

[Tikkanen]

Task: Converting a film NTSC DVD --> NTSC SVCD (2 pass VBR) to be viewed on a TV.

1. Should I enable Inverse Telecine? I notice that TMPGEnc always pre-selects it for me when using the wizard, while Sefy's guides do not enable it.

2. Should I enable deinterlace? If so, which filter? (There appear to be 10+ choices).

I have searched through some of the forum and am kinda confused. TIA.

[banjazzer]

I'm not sure whether you need to inverse telecine or not (I would think not though) but you should not need to de-interlace, since SVCD can be interlaced, and this would not be a problem viewing on TV.

[poopyhead]

I'm not sure whether you need to inverse telecine or not (I would think not though) but you should not need to de-interlace, since SVCD can be interlaced, and this would not be a problem viewing on TV.

i've actually used adaptive de-interlace quite often (blend (adaptive) for me because i have really old version of tmpgenc)

most movies are not completely 100% FILM, but they can still be forced film in dvd2avi and encoded in tmpgenc as 23.976 fps + 3:2 pulldown. however, there will still be some interlaced lines in a couple scenes. the de-interlace filter (i.e. blend (apative) or double (adaptive) depending on which version of tmgpenc u have) seems to work pretty well.... the filter only screws up if you try to force film a predominately NTSC movie

Tikkanen,

you need to preview the movie in dvd2avi and pay attention to the video type (preview beyond the opening credits because they are usually NTSC). if the video type is 90+% FILM, it is pretty safe to force film in dvd2avi and encode in tmpgenc as 23.976 fps + 3:2 pulldown

otherwise, you should turn OFF forced film in dvd2avi and use inverse telecine.

[banjazzer]

I'm not sure why there is a need to de-interlace when the intention is to watch a format that supports interlacing on TV which has an interlaced display.

[poopyhead]

I'm not sure why there is a need to de-interlace when the intention is to watch a format that supports interlacing on TV which has an interlaced display.

with NTSC dvds, the quality will be better if we forced film in dvd2avi and encoded in tmpgenc as 23.976 fps + 3:2 pulldown. this does NOT make the output video interlaced. hence, there may be interlaced lines occasionally.

we could encode NTSC dvds as 29.97 fps + interlaced, but then, it would look pretty bad on progressive computer monitors. so, the flexibility of watching SVCDs on both the computer AND the TV is a plus.

[SatStorm]

Arghhhh!!!! I just have my first true experience with NTSC VHS!
Arghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
I ready to jump from the top of the roof!
How you manage to live with this system for so many years?
Without filters and advance technicks you are lost!!!!!
Argggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You hear me down there? I jumping!

[Gazorgan]

LMAO. Is that a comercial SP tape, or a homebrew SLP? 15 fps will drive you insane trying to cap it!

[SatStorm]

It is a professional SP tape.
I don't talking about capping & encoding. I was able to make it perfect, also I perfect convert it to PAL (almost perfect, a field jumps every 1.3 second...)
I talk about NTSC in generall. Comparing it to PAL it is ... bad (a polite word to dercribe it). Wrong fake colours, blurness, so low quality...
Also, now I really know how to answer sometimes for issues regarding matters covered on forums. We talking about great differences!
With PAL, you grabb and encode, you don't even need filters! You need filters only on extreme situations. With NTSC filters are more than neccessary. At least a colour adjustment needed. We talking about complication.....
I hope all those issues solved with HDTV there.

[CaelanT]

NTSC = Never The Same Colour twice!

[Tikkanen]

Thanks for the help, guys! Each movie backup is coming out perfect!