how can i get rid of top&bottom borders on widescreen mo

[rockshow]

what i really want to know is how can i get rid of the borders at the top and bottom of the screen when i convert widescreen DVD movies into SVCD.

i use smartripper when ripping the movies. then dvd2avi to get the d2v file then i load it into tmpgenc. i've tried all the settings in tmpgenc but to no avail. if somebody could help me it would be appreciated.

[SingSing]

Do you think cropping left and rigth will help ?

Try encode as 4:3, and crop both sides. It may work.

[tonyp12]

When a DVD movie have black borders,
they are added by the DVD player during playback.

Reason is to keep aspect ratio, as you do not want
people to be 10feet (3m) tall in the movie.

So do you rather cut out left and right side and maybe miss some
important action scenes on those cut out parts ?

A pro 16:9 to 4:3 conversion is done with a Pan & Scan,
if a important scene is on the side they digitaly slowly pan
over to this part.

Pan = moving the camera left and right.

[hp_lovecraft]

The "FullScreen" TMPG arrange method automatically removes the black bars to convert a widescreen movie.
The problem is that the sides get lopped off, so you are missing bits of the movie.

Another alternative is to trim the sides a tiny bit, and then use "Center (custom)" arange method to slightly stretch the picture vertically. This way you don't loose as much picture, but all the characters are slightly taller.

Or, get a DVD player with a 'zoom' button....

nick

[SingSing]

Most of rthe player support pan and zoom,
but the movie turn it off.

[tonyp12]

Are you telling me that a Widescreen DVD movie
have substream to tell how to PAN for a 4:3 display??

Would be cool if they did, but as some DVD are also relased
as "Full Screen" and do not think this is the case.

A Full screen version= a 4:3 display where the studio do the PAN
before the left/right cut-off.

[hp_lovecraft]

Are you telling me that a Widescreen DVD movie
have substream to tell how to PAN for a 4:3 display??

Sorta-
It is part of the DVD spec, and all DVD players could do it, BUT NOBODY includes pan/scan information into the DVD stream.

The problem is that the process does not work very well. The pans are very jerky and annoying. Plus, most studio encoders do not support "pan/scan on the fly", so there is no point in spending the extra money for technology that doesnt work. Plus, most noobs seem to be happy enough using the 'zoom' button.

If I remember correctly, there was only 1 or 2 DVDs made with this process back in '97, and none since. (actually, some DVD menus are flagged for pan/scan- Not to actually pan, but just to zoom in when in 4x3 mode. That way, the menu fills the screen in both 4x3 and 16x9 TVs).

nick