352x288 MPG1 -which bitrate is official DVD-compliant?

[Spektakulum]

Hello there!

I had many problems with DVD Complete as it didn't accept my MPEG1-streams in 352x288.
After months I found out that it only accepts CBR1150-streams, in MPEG2 I can use whatever I want.

Though my MPEG2 CBR2000 352x288 DVD worked on every player I had, I was told that the low resolution is only allowed with MPEG1 - Is this true?

Is only CBR1150 allowed when you use MPEG1 on a DVD?

I'm speaking of the official restrictions of the DVD-standard - I know it all works on mostly any standalone-player, but I want to be sure to make them right way before I start tons of work. So far I made only 2 DVD's, so it wouldn't hurt to much to start them over, until I have the source-files left.

Thanx in advance!

[0 kewl]

Yes sure, just start over there in the WHAT IS VCD, SVCD, DVDR section. Top left corner of this page. That will straighten you.

[Spektakulum]

Thanx for the fast answer!
I had a look at the what is-section months ago, well, if you look very closely I guess there are two words I didn't have seen clear enough?!

Video:
up to 9.8 Mbit/sec MPEG-2 or MPEG-1
720 x 576 pixels
352 x 288 pixels (VCD Standard)
352 x 576 pixels (CVD Standard)
25 frames/second


Just to make it clear if I got it right, in the first line it sounds like every bitrate is possible, but guess the words (VCD standard) are very important, huh?

If anyone could answer a short "yes", I'd be greatly satisfied!
Guess I was blind before?

[0 kewl]

VCD = 1150CBR, 352*288 PAL, 352*240 NTSC/NTSCFilm ONLY
You CAN make Mpeg1 outside these standards but then it is a XVCD (non-standard VCD) and therefore not accepted by many DVD players (if your does, then change what you like, though there is a maximum bitrate your player can accept).

Though my MPEG2 CBR2000 352x288 DVD worked on every player I had, I was told that the low resolution is only allowed with MPEG1 - Is this true?

No, you can use this resolution on Mpeg 2 if you want but it makes no sense since Mpeg 2 allows a much higher resolution.

[Spektakulum]

No, you can use this resolution on Mpeg 2 if you want but it makes no sense since Mpeg 2 allows a much higher resolution

Sure? Then I didn't made anything wrong with the dvd I burnt, right?
I used MPEG2 'cause a) my software didn't accept it on MPEG1, this was my mistake b) could use higher bitrates (e.g.CBR2000).

As 352x288 does make sense when you only grab normal VHS and of course I had some videofiles that are already in this resolution, but soemtimes got better quality then MPEG1 would do at CBR1150.

However I'll experiment if the quality loss is noticable.

[Greg12]

I've had alot of problems with this.

DVD MPEG 1 is this

352x240 (this is the only valid resolution)

The maximun bitrate with audio, video, subtitles etc is 1856kbs.

I find that 1800 CBR for the video works well.


I have never had success with VBR.

[Greg12]

I don't recomind MPEG 2 at 352x240.
I made some movies like this and the quality is pure CRAP!

[Spektakulum]

I don't recomind MPEG 2 at 352x240.
I made some movies like this and the quality is pure CRAP!

Huh, does it make sense to use higher resolitions vor VHS-captures? As VHS can only store something like 240 lines, the VCD-resolition is pretty near. The good thing is that you can't get any interlace-problems at this resolution.

[ricardo2]

"Huh, does it make sense to use higher resolitions vor VHS-captures? As VHS can only store something like 240 lines, the VCD-resolition is pretty near. The good thing is that you can't get any interlace-problems at this resolution"

www.lukesvideo.com
And there high vs low res capturing.Plenty of useful information about capturing.

[SatStorm]

I asked that some time ago, noone knew to answer me...

You see, I burned a DVD-R full of 352 X 288 mpeg 2 material, and I tested it to all possible players I could find. It played even to some Sony standalones, with no problems.
It is a very good alternative for VHS to DVD material, expecially if the qualilty ain't the best possible... We talking about 6-7 hours per disc that way!

So, the question remains for me also: What is 352 X 288 mpeg 2 for DVDs? A hidden legal resoluton like 1/2 D1 (352 X 576/480)? Or it is acceptable because of the flexibility of some standalone DVD players?