DV to VCD in GOOD QUALITY ??

[PAIBAK]

I want to make a VCD from DV-movie(holiday). I use studio7 to make the movie(titles, ...) and then i let studio7 make a VCD. I find it a very bad quality to view on a standalone DVD. So I tried with studio7 to make a AVI, but TMPGEnc can't read this AVI-file. Is there somebody who can tell me with wich programs I can make VCD from a DV with a very good quality. (I made already some back-ups from DVD tot VCD with TMPGEnc with very good quality)

[yg1968]

You can try using another capturing program. For example DVIO or amcap. Some versions of TMPGEnc have problems with type 1 DV avi. You can try to convert the avi DV into a type 2 DV avi.

http://rfm.ulead.com/pav/dv.htm

[bapski]

paibak, i am having the same problem...

maybe if we could get an application that we can configure the settings to 320x240x24 and capture from our DV CAMS (mine is a sony dcr pc110) maybe we might be lucky.. is there such an application?

basically, i think what is done is that the video from my DV CAM is captured in its original setting which is at 720x480x24....so it suffers a big degredation during encoding to VCD....

can somebody enlighten us on this...

[kitty]

In Studio 7 encode to 704x480 (NTSC is you are in the US I assume) and use a compression codec that provides little loss - maybe HuffYUV or Cinepac or Indeo at best quality. Then TMPGenc will accept it and you can use the VCD template. I'd tweek the VCD template to use High Motion Search (very slow) to get the best quality - encode it overnight as it will be a bit slower )

You probably selected an AVI with a codec that TMPGenc could not use. Never use divx as an intermediary codec as it is too lossy as an AVI to MPEG1/2 codec.

You'll find your quality is much better now.

[yg1968]

I could be wrong but I think that you are better off remaining in DV avi and using TMPGEnc to encode to mpeg. The studio 7 mpeg encoder is not very good. You may have to convert the DV avi type 1 file into a type 2 DV avi in order for TMPGEnc to recognize it. However, later version of TMPGEnc apparently recognize type 1 DV avi files.

The DV avi is already compressed. I am not sure that compressing to a different codec is ideal. It is time consuming and unnecessary. Importing DV can be done by any program. DV is simply imported without modifications. You are better off remaining in DV until, you are ready to convert to mpeg.

Here is a related link:

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109116

DVIO allows you to import DV into type 1 or type 2:

http://www.carr-engineering.com/dvio.htm

[izik43]

if u capture at vcd format the resuls is very bad.
i capture at the hiest format that the coputer can work
e.g 640*480 at 4 mb/s nd after that conver to vcd format
good luck
:P

[yg1968]

When you import DV, the capturing process is actually done by the camcorder. Therefore you have no choice but to capture at DV settings (720x480). The firewire cable only transfers the DV from your camcorder to your computer. If you capture at anything else but DV, you are actually encoding on the fly which is not ideal. I am assuming that you are using a firewire port to import your DV (if you are not then you should).

[PAIBAK]

Thanks to everybody who was trying to help.
The DV-camcorder is attached with a i-link.
When i try to make the movie with AVI, compress-mode:Huffyuv v2.1.1
it will be a file of 25536 MB for a movie +/-17 minutes. This to much MB