Issue: MP4 to GIF does NOT add sound?

[Xogroroth]

Greetings all:

First of all, I have Premium, just so that we are on the same page.

Now, I tried to create a GIF with sound from an 11 second MP4:
What I did:
Add Source: => MP4; 720x1080, 2.1MB in size.
Video and sound are detected by Movavi: => AAC, 48KBPS Stereo.

Select output: => GIF, Large, 700x526.
But now, sound suddenly is greyed out in the Source File.
When I deselect GIF, it is re-added.

Pressing Convert results in "a silent GIF".

Gif can have sound, I have a few of those, from online converters.
But Movavi refuses to add sound?

Am I doing something wrong, have I missed something?
I did not see anything in the settings or so?

Anyone a clue what this can be, please?

Thank you aforehand:
Xogroroth.

[poisondeathray]

Officially, GIF specification does not support audio, so most programs do not support creating it
https://www.w3.org/Graphics/GIF/spec-gif89a.txt

The other ones you made were with audio were probably not spec compliant GIF , but a modified version. They are not guaranteed to play properly everywhere
https://github.com/RancidBacon/audiogif

The other possibility is they were "giphy" - which are actually video

[Xogroroth]

Thank you for responding.

Is Giphy ending with the extension .GIF?

Do you know where I might make a high quality GIF with sound, please?

Thank you aforehand:
Xog

[poisondeathray]

Is Giphy ending with the extension .GIF?

It can, but the audio is a "trick" - it's separate

Most audio GIF's are a "trick"

Do you know where I might make a high quality GIF with sound, please?

You can use the online converter that you used before , or try the python audiogif script in the link above

There are several GIF+audio variations. Most real GIF's use a separate audio track. Some rename a mp4 video extension to .gif and it will play in some browsers . The python script embeds the audio but it's not supported universally .

There is no such thing as a "high quality gif" - Gif only support a 256 color pallette. If you see something "high quality" and think it's really a "gif" - it's actually a video format that supports millions of colors and audio

The highest quality real GIF maker for the visual part is probably gifski , but the gif sizes are enormous at highest quality compared to typical gifs - and the quality is still low compared to fake gif video

[Xogroroth]

Thank you, sir.

Now, for the GIF I need to make, quality is the important part, I fear.

So ... I guess, I am a kind of buggered.

Why, though, does Movavi not offer this feature?
I mean, GIF with audio, be it fake or not, is something, I bet, many would really love ... .
*hint hint at the creators*

No?

Thank you for the help, sir.

Kindest regards:
Xog

[Xogroroth]

[QUOTE=poisondeathray;2760161]

There are several GIF+audio variations.

Github has AudioGIF, but that is Unix/Linux based.
My Unix/Linux knowledge is long gone and forgotten (End 80's, early 90's), and I fail to get it to work on PC.

Hmmm, maybe the creators of Movavi could ask RancidBacon, if they are allowed to build it into Movavi?
*Even more *Hint hint** :P

Merely thinking out loud.

Xog.

[poisondeathray]

Now, for the GIF I need to make, quality is the important part, I fear.

So ... I guess, I am a kind of buggered.

What is the situation or background information ? What is it going to be viewed on, what platform/ hardware etc... what is the audience etc... Is it going to be a private host, embedded in a browser etc...

With these "fake" formats, compatibility is always an issue . You can have it work in one browser, but not on MacOS for example

Why, though, does Movavi not offer this feature?
I mean, GIF with audio, be it fake or not, is something, I bet, many would really love ... .
*hint hint at the creators*

Hmmm, maybe the creators of Movavi could ask RancidBacon, if they are allowed to build it into Movavi?

You can make a suggestion to their support team

I think it unlikely, because "audio GIF" doesn't really exist as a standardized format - they are all hacks and tricks that may or may not work.

Even "audiogif" has Reference Implementation: Player section - this means for it to work properly everywhere, that js code has to be implemented. Very unlikely

[Xogroroth]

The ones I have do work, good sir.
But these are low quality.

Now, whether a standardised format or not, it is saved as a .a.gif, and all websites see this therefore as a GIF file.
And even plays the sound ... .
So, I do not really see the issue there?

Many sites and people use non-standard file formats, and though non-standard, they do function nonetheless.
And, as per Fugazi in "Waiting Room":
"Function is the key."

Now, if PUNKS, of all people, understand this (I am a Black Metal Punk, for the record), then surely the more intelligent should be able to get this as well, I would reckon? :P

What say you, sir?

[poisondeathray]

The ones I have do work, good sir.
But these are low quality.

Now, whether a standardised format or not, it is saved as a .a.gif, and all websites see this therefore as a GIF file.
And even plays the sound ... .
So, I do not really see the issue there?

"if it ain't broke , don't fix it" - if it works and meets your needs , just keep on using that online converter

Ask movavi support to implement something similar

But do you really need "GIF" ? (whether or not it's authentic) - Because that's the thing killing the quality. 256 colors. Gifs that resemble almost decent quality use heavy dithering - essentially a noise pattern to hide the defects, posterization, banding problems - and it will balloon up the filesize. Your 2.1 MB source video could easily increase 10-50x in size for just the video portion for lower quality . The novelty of GIFs was mainly because of the small filesize and they got the point across.

[Xogroroth]

But do you really need "GIF" ?

Many a site do not allow video to be posted, though accept GIF.
So ... I guess I do?

It's silly, to allow one thing, but not the other, though it would be similar in nature, just a different version ... .

[poisondeathray]

But do you really need "GIF" ?

Many a site do not allow video to be posted, though accept GIF.

But most that allow "GIF", will also have filesize limitations. A 200MB GIF would usually be rejected . If you look at your audio GIF's right now, they probably have lost a lot of quality compared to the source video

[Xogroroth]

If you look at your audio GIF's right now, they probably have lost a lot of quality compared to the source video

The largest are tops 20mb, but yes, lost quality.

For the one I wanted to do, I need quality, hence I came here.

I fail to get why many a site allow GIF, but not MP4, AVI, or similar ... with file restrictions, is should be easy to do.
ALAS ... that then is not the case.