Problems w/ Nero/Spruce-Up/DVR-104

[onerag9]

Installed my DVR-104 yesterday, and today i made an attempt at authoring my first DVD. I wanted to throw a bunch of VCD files onto a disc, so i re-encoded the audio per the guides on this site, and then authored the disc with SpruceUp. Four menus, each with one video file. Saved the project as a Title set, then opened Cinematograph DVD player to make sure everything was working correctly. The menu buttons worked, all the video files played, so i figured i was ready to go.
Opened up the newest Nero, loaded the VIDEO_TS folder, and burned onto a DVD-RW. When the disc had finished, i checked it using WinDVD, and it played flawlessly. However, in my standalone (Pioneer DV-333) is where the problems occured.
Moving between menus is no problem at all. But when you click a button to play the video file, there is a pause, and then the screen goes to a zoomed-in shot of the background image. The audio starts to play, but it's as if the machine is stuck in fast-forward, because it skips and jumps at a high speed (i also noted the timer on the player's LCD display was moving WAY too fast to be playing the disc properly). The video files will not play at all.
Anyone have this (or a similar) problem?

[QwSxCV]

ive had exactly the same problem on my pioneer dv-343 its a nightmare, it works on all my friends dvd players except mine. i was gonna try n see if dvdit pe was different but i aint yet, just havent got round to it. I havent found away of getting around this problem except encode em as mpeg2.... but if u try a diff authoring program u might get diff results (coz i used spruceup as well) ill probably try with dvdit today.

[stevemoley]

same problem,

try converting the audio from 44.1khz to 48khz and remux with tmpgenc.
it worked for me,
i use dvdit to author and have had no problems with mpg1 on dvd
the only real problem with it is that the dvdit encoder is too sloww, but you can do all the encoding in tmpg and just let dvdit do the ac3

-moley

also, it might be a good idea, when using dvdit to encode ur mpg1 to an 1850kbs bitrate(this seems to be the the best it can handle) with tmpeg first

[QwSxCV]

whats remux?, ive converted the audio to 48khz....shall i do the mpg n change the audio so audio n mpg r in the same file (.mpg) or shall i make the audio and m1v seperate and add them both manually with dvdit??????

[stevemoley]

http://www.vcdhelp.com/vcddvdr.htm

have a look at this guide, i just followed it and have had no problems since.

-moley

[onerag9]

I followed the guide exactly, and no dice. I didn't try remuxing the MPEG, i might give that a whirl later today. I might also try a different authoring prog.
I'm wondering if it might be the fact that the disc is a DVD-RW and not a DVD-R? Is that a possibility?

[mazinz]

i posted this problem a short time ago, (so at least i know its not me, or just a bad burn) i too have spruce up and the dvr-104 pioneer burner.
i had the same problem as far as the menu goes, however on my home decks (both pioneer) if you hit "stop"(no resume) and then hit 'next" it overrides the menu and goes straight to title 1 of the disc, each clip you have is its own title so you can view them this way.
Thier is a program called dvdpatcher and im wondering if it may have soemthing to do with the picture size (in my case 352x240 ntsc) since they are mepg 1. I think spruce may be looking for mpeg 1 but with a differnt pic size. Dvd patcher will patch the header info and you can trick it so the program will think its a 720/480 pic size will test this and let you know if that works-
Also interestingly enough the menu worked fine when played on a playstation 2, however on that the pic looked horrible (like the older sega cd games) and its almost black and white

[bugster]

onerag9, I notice you used a DVD-RW disc, have you tried a DVD-R. Different standalone players handle different media types to a greater or lesser extent. maybe your player is having problems reading the DVD-RW disc. Although, being a pioneer, same brand as the burner, you would probably expect it to work more than other brands.

Just a thought!

[mazinz]

hey Bugster,
when i made mine i used a regualr dvd-r (tdk) and had the same problem so it is definetly either something with the program or the pioneer player itself (which i dont think it would be)

[mazinz]

ok just tried another disc. I used an original vcd with 2 clips on it. This time i noticed that the clips were of pal format (352x288). So i went through and made a menu,etc. The dvd was about 456megs. When i went to make the disc spruce let me know i had an ntsc/pal fix problem.
i exited the program, went in and went to the preferences and made sure it was pal. I did everything again (menu,etc) the disc burned and it played fine in my pioneer deck, no crazy menu mayhem. HOWEVER it was totally in pal format, no nifty vcd conversion like it does on the vcds itself. but the disc and menus and such worked fine this time around.
is it possible that you had a mix of ntsc and pal clips on the same vcd-dvd you were trying to make? I think this may have been my problem as some clips were defiently ntsc but i think one might have been pal.
if this is the case this adds another problem of converting the pal to ntsc or vice versa, let you know working on more test