Freemake & Imgburn Problems

[Muze Twelve]

I have a movie that was over 120minutes long so I had to clip off a minute or so to fit onto a disc.

It's an MP4 file, but ImgBurn is not accepting it so I can make a disc, and Freemake does burn it but totally without the sound! And Window DVD Maker is being its usual bitch self and not wanting to burn it at all. What to do?

[Baldrick]

Use Avstodvd.

But doesn't you discuss this already? in https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/373801-AnyDVD-software-and-the-troubles-I-m-having/page2

[Muze Twelve]

Different issue. This is not about ripping a clean quality copy. But a burning to dvd issue. That thread was mainly about the Any DVD program but it was since discovered that the one I have is not the genuine product but a knock-off version. But you can move it if that's how it goes.

[Cornucopia]

Wait a minute...You tried to burn to a disc a title (WHICH came from a disc, and thus COULD fit onto it), but it couldn't fit onto a disc? Something is wrong with your methods here.

If you didn't re-encode, sounds like your rip was unsuccessful.

If you DID re-encode, sounds like you re-encoded to too high of a bitrate.

*********
MP4 - Bingo!
Re-encoded incorrectly. That is not just a RIP, but a RIP+re-encode. Re-encoding a 2nd time to get it back onto a DVD disc is further wasting quality.

You'll probably need to start over from scratch. Review your steps in detail...
What is your complete strategy?

Scott

[Muze Twelve]

Obviously something did go wrong, there are three movies I'm trying to make a dvd copy of because I don't really want the originals and want to trade them for some movies I really do want. But they were interesting enough to want a copy of. So they are all under 100 minutes according to the approx. time listed on the back cover.

This one I'm trying right now is said to be only 82 minutes long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_of_%2776_(1990_film) see the "Running time" there?

But when I ripped the movie, it was like 121 minutes. So I had to go into Movie Maker and shave off some time, so I took off some of the credits.

I didn't encode anything when ripping. I just don't know how to do any of that. Make MKV program is not something I know my way around. I can rip using it, but damned if I know how to "encode" anything. The steps I'm taking is just putting the movie into my D Drive, starting up the Make mkv program, and going from there, and I'm not typing in anything or changing any settings.

So I had to use the method I know works. But once it goes through Windows and saves the file as a WMV that it saves it as so you can actually burn it (since the other two wasn't even going to deal with MKV files) - as it was originally ripped on MakeMKV, then I had decided to try the method I knew worked but I also know it sucks to the highest degree. The picture quality is now diminished. Noticeably.

I'm going to try what Baldrick gave me. But if you can explain where the problem is and what exactly I need to do please let me know.

The other two movies I want to burn are 93 minutes and 97 minutes and when ripped through MakeMKV they both clock in over 130 or so minutes.

It's really making me depressed. I still have the DVDs I want to copy. In case something actually does work and I can do this properly. If I can get to that point. If someone can explain it to me where I'm going wrong.

I still have the mkv file on my computer.



P.S. Another thing is, whenever I rip anything using Make Mkv, it never lists any info about the file, like framerates, time, etc.

[Cornucopia]

If you -COPY- then sell the originals, that's equivalent of stealing/warez. Can't help you.

Clearly, though, MakeMKV is not without its faults as a ripper, if you are to be believed. Without logs, it's impossible to say. Maybe you have settings wrong.

Or go back to square one and use proper tools.
But only if you keep your originals, and don't upload your copies...

Scott

[redwudz]

... I'm trying to make a dvd copy of because I don't really want the originals and want to trade them for some movies I really do want.

Discussion of Warez can get you banned on this site. You can't keep the backups without the originals without violating copyright.
Please read our rules before posting.

And since you have started a new similar thread, I'll close the old one.

You might look to the upper left on this page for 'WHAT IS' DVD to learn a bit more about that format.
Also just below that for 'HOW TO' for guides on different processes and programs.

Moderator redwudz

[Muze Twelve]

Um no, you misunderstand. I got some boxed sets of cheap movies. I don't want them. And I can sell or trade them for other movies at a store called Hastings. You got it wrong, I wasn't at all talking about warez or any such thing. You can take DVDs and CDs back to Hastings and trade them in for other stuff. If that's against the law then the store chain called Hasting is breaking the law. And I've checked up on this matter, nowhere does it state that you must keep the original DVD of a movie. You can have a personal copy for yourself. I'm not taking the copy to exchange but the original movie itself which I have a receipt for!

As I stated; I don't want the originals because they are part of boxed sets where there are like several movies on one disc. There were only a few that were interesting enough to want a copy TO KEEP for myself. The boxed sets themselves can be traded for other movies or something else. Hastings don't care, they buy back movies and books all the time and re-sell them as "used items". Which is, imo, very legal.

I request that you open the other thread as I have a reply, and since that's part of a different discussion, I don't see why that thread was closed. This was a different topic. Or are members only allowed one thread at a time? SMH.

[hech54]

Oh my.....
.....and some people fell for this TWICE?
Why do you even bother trying with people like this?

[Muze Twelve]

Can you please stop trolling? If you think that I don't have legitimate questions and issues with anything, then stay off my threads. Why are you even here? I'm trying to understand and learn about all of this and all you're doing is making stupid remarks that don't help anyone. I don't even know if you're talking to me or someone else. Who are you mad at? And why?

Is this the way all beginners and newbies are treated? WTF?

[manono]

I have a movie that was over 120minutes long so I had to clip off a minute or so to fit onto a disc.

Have you learned nothing in your time here?

What you can burn to a DVD5 has nothing to do with its length (even though some discs say 120 minutes) but on the filesize. If a video file won't burn to a DVD5, then it's larger than 4.37GB in size. You can burn a 5-hour long video to a DVD5 if the bitrate is low enough. It won't look very good but it can easily be done.

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/373801-AnyDVD-software-and-the-troubles-I-m-having?...=1#post2408621

You don't have to clip anything from it. And, of course, the other reason why you can't make the DVD for your DVD player is because it's an MP4. So it has to be converted/reencoded. For that, as Baldrick mentioned, AVSToDVD is the program to use.

[Muze Twelve]

If you -COPY- then sell the originals, that's equivalent of stealing/warez. Can't help you.

Clearly, though, MakeMKV is not without its faults as a ripper, if you are to be believed. Without logs, it's impossible to say. Maybe you have settings wrong.

Or go back to square one and use proper tools.
But only if you keep your originals, and don't upload your copies...

Scott

That's what I'm trying to get at, I don't know my way around the program and have been looking up tutorials and all kinds of info about it. It's complicated because there is no way to preview (that I know of) the content you put on it, you have to guess at what you want and what you don't want by title numbers and sometimes this doesn't help when a disc has multiple films on it. I'm guessing the menu for them all is the same and am trying to test things out on it.

[Muze Twelve]

Gimme a break, I've not been here but for a week or so. I haven't learned much from here since I'm still testing programs and what they can and cannot do. So there's that. And I'm the one who didn't even realize that Staples was selling a cheap copy of the real deal, so I didn't even know that until it was pointed out! And the trolls don't help.

Yes a 121 minute movie to be exact according to the mkv file when tried and tested, when the movie itself is listed as much shorter, but the program made it longer. So don't blame me for that. There are differences in the formats. Obviously. One file might be shorter than another. MKV makes files in MKV. This is what I understand it to be doing.

I did download the program and already made a copy of the one movie. Since I don't care greatly about that movie, the menu was just a generic one, one of three available, and I used that. But that one did work although it somehow grabbed imgburn and used it too. Don't ask me how that happened. I have no idea why.

I wish people would understand that I don't know my way around this stuff. I shouldn't be ridiculed for any of this stuff. I am a beginner for what it's worth and I never made any pretense otherwise. I let everyone know up front that I was a total newbie. The one thing I do know, is the music video edits, and these are all created and in my head already. The creation process isn't the trouble I'm having, it's the tools and software I don't know. Okay?

[hech54]

Is this gastrof or coody?
GOTTA be one of those two.

[Muze Twelve]

I don't know any of these people. I've never been here before, and I'm sure an owner can verify that. You're shooting at an innocent here.

I've been doing music video creations for some time, if you check my link on my profile. Since 2011 when I first started to learn how to use Movie Maker. I've just been unable to make better videos because all I've had to work with is Dazzle, 123CopyDvd and the recent fake Any DVD. All of them don't do justice to the original footage. Although I know it can be done.

As for other people and me, you GOTTA be wrong and you are.

[Muze Twelve]

@ manono

I can upload videos but they have to be on youtube or some other network. I can upload pictures. But not direct files. Might be because I haven't been here long enough. There might be a counter of some sort. To your question from the other thread.

[Muze Twelve]

Okay since I'm apparently only allowed one thread at a time, I have a different question. The AVStoDVD worked to get the movies burned. But now, what I'd like to know is if make mkv can be instructed to include the menu and chapters from a movie? It gets confusing I'm sure if that movie happens to be one of several on a single disc. Is there a way to get the main menu then the chapters of the movie you rip and exclude the others?

I can take screenshots of the process, if that helps?

[Kerry56]

MakeMKV rips DVD's as main movie only mkv files. That is the only way it works with them. You will lose the menu.
If you rip Blu-ray with MakeMKV, you have the option to use the Backup function, which will rip the entire thing to the hard drive.

There are other relatively modern tools for ripping DVD's, including some free ones, like the TDMore Free DVD program and DVDFab HD Decrypter. And the old tools like DVDDecrypter still work for the vast majority of DVD's.

[Muze Twelve]

Okay, I'm going to try the Decrypter one. I understand that to be on par with the same picture quality that Make Mkv gives you...but normally I wouldn't sweat this too much but one movie I have, has a good menu and chapters and they make it with the original artwork and I'd like to have that with the movie itself that it comes with.

[manono]

@ manono

I can upload videos but they have to be on youtube or some other network.

YouTube is useless as it reencodes. Try MediaFire or some such third-party filesharing site.

[Muze Twelve]

Sure thing. Give me a little time, I have been working really brutal hours and when I can I work with this, until I literally cannot hold my eyes open anymore and have to sleep. But I'll be trying the programs suggested and have already made some decent discs so far with the MMkv, AVS2DVD that somehow with some things coincide with imgburn.

Yeah yt re-encodes, I know LOL! I've seen some movies uploaded there and good God some are really bad quality.

[Muze Twelve]

Might as well use this topic for the issue with DVDShrink. I have installed DVDShrink 3.2 and I poured over the tutorials. Trying to get a certain DVD ripped and copied with its menu and chapters intact. DVDShrink apparently does this and keeps the quality intact (so I've read) but the problem I'm running into now is that the "main movie" on this particular disc is actually three movies and I want only one of them.

It does offer a way to slide in some still image to take out undesired parts of a disc but I'm not seeing how you can do this with the three listed titles in the "main movie" list on the left side of the panel.

When doing the "back up" it shows in the preview window that the other two films are still there and churring along.

I'm going to try to omit the extra two films once they're downloaded and try imgburn to see if it works to burn the movie I want with the menu and chapters intact (even the chapters to the other two films because that's not an issue with me) I just want the one movie but with the nice artwork and menu selection that this multi-movie box set has. Just don't want the other movies and they're put on there in a way it's reading as one whole movie at least as far as DVD Shrink is concerned.

Can anyone let me know if I'm going about this all wrong?


EDIT:

Well so much for that! >< !!!!

Now I can't even find where DVDShrink put my dvd files it just ripped. It gave a link and wow, can't even click on it, and it's nowhere to be found!

Now what?

[hech54]

Now I can't even find where DVDShrink put my dvd files it just ripped. It gave a link and wow, can't even click on it, and it's nowhere to be found!

Now what?

Try:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\DVD Shrink.

[Muze Twelve]

I located it, but it wasn't being read by anything. I ended up deleting it because I don't need it taking up space. I will re-try this thing.

I'm going to try to just "re-author" it even though it says you can't have the menu and chapters, and just try to add them in anyway. The problem with this is that the "main movie" is in three parts, those would be the individual movies but they are listed as apparent chapters within.

If it's not one thing, it's another.

Work has been insane, I was supposed to have the day off today but no dice. So now here I am up late just pulling my hair out.

[Muze Twelve]

DVD Shrink actually worked with the taking out of the other two movies because apparently you can replace them with an image as long as it's one of the images they offer or maybe it just has to be a certain size image, but I'm glad to report that it worked and did play in the DVD player using Img Burn to finalize the process (since shrink won't actually put the movie in a file that you can open - at least not as far as I can see)...but the one thing that made it seem like it wasn't going to work was that during the ripping process in the preview window it does show it going through the entire disc. So one would think it was still putting the whole thing on there.

Thankfully it allowed me to keep the menu and chapters even to the other two films which didn't bother me, because it was just a still shot showing the chapters of each film, and it burned the one I did want without having to have the others on there that I didn't want.

So another good review for DVD Shrink.

I was wondering, since it rips it into an ISO file, but putting it in a folder that my computer simply cannot open or read by itself, if one can put an ISO file into Movie Maker...because this stuff is clear picture quality. I did read that it will look at the disc and take like so many fps but isn't actually taking each frame, but you can't really tell. It's a pretty damned good rip.