MPC-HC Hangs when jumping forward

[vhwul62]

Take any DVD VIDEO_TS
Play it
Then do two three big steps ahead
MPC stops - does not respond and I need to kill it.

v.1.7.7
I uninstalled it
installed 1.7.8
same issue.

I hoped this player was better than VLC ....

When not VLC, POT, KMPlayer and not MPC-HC what then ?

[Krispy Kritter]

Hardware?

In order to jump ahead, the player has to read/scan the file(s). If they are all behaving the same, I'd suspect the read is slow, slow cpu, or low amount of RAM.

[vhwul62]

Initially I was happy with MPC-HC.
Used VLC in the past, but it started acting a bit weird lately, like when opening a video file, it started out full screen but it covered 3/4 of my screen, the other 1/4 was off-screen, so I had to change it back each time. Then, I had a toolbar, with some buttons I wanted to have, but all of a sudden it changed and the buttons I configured were gone. Whatever I did, I could not get them back. Tried this, that, took too much time altogether, so I got fed up with it and went on to try out other players.
Ended up with MPC-HC.

Now this problem.

I just installed Potplayer and I coud skip to any part in the video (.vob) and it would not crash. I figure it must MPC-HC. Google'd on MPC-HC Not responding and noticed it seems to be a more regular occurrence.

[hello_hello]

Playing DVD is sometimes problematic. It may be decoder related. According to your screenshot MPC-HC is using hardware decoding (video card decoding instead of CPU). mpeg2 video doesn't take much processing power anyway, but try disabling hardware decoding before blaming the player (options/internal filters/video decoder).

You could try MPC-BE. I prefer MPC-HC but they're very similar. A while back MPC-HC switched to using LAV filters internally for decoding, while MPC-BE stuck with the existing codecs. From a user perspective they're pretty much the same. MPC-BE does have a navigation bar preview whereas MPC-HC doesn't, and that's a nice addition.

I've never warmed to Potplayer. It's obviously based on a lot of MPC-HC code with a whole lot of extra options added, most of which I don't need, and a layout that makes it fairly confusing to find the settings you want.

[fritzi93]

Dunno if it will help with your problem, but yeah, you could try MPC-BE.

I found it will play some files that MPC-HC won't. But that's a specific scenario: H.264 captures that were edited (with tsSniper) to remove adverts. MPC-HC stops at the joins.

Worth a shot though, as perhaps BE is a bit more forgiving. The preview pane is nice, and MPC-BE is my default player.

[vhwul62]

Thank you both. It is disappointing to see that MPC-HC hasn't a dedicated forum. Vainly tried to register their TRAC system, but it kept on saying that I was considered as 'spam' and I needed to fill in the 'gotcha'-codes. After doing that 3x the system still considered me as spam, so, I dropped it.

KMPlayer and Potplayer, at least they have some decent forums.

@hello_hello
as for: "(options/internal filters/video decoder)" - I am not familiar with such things.
Is this the screen what you mean?
Should I select 'none' or what..?
As for Potplayer, you are right about the settings. There are a lot!
And a lot of different window panels with settings...
(by default Potplayer has no context menu, maybe it can be 'set' somewhere, don't know. I like that feature of other players, such as MPC-HC and VLC)
I selected the player from the list at
https://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/video-players?orderby=Rating
with mostly experts opinions.
KMPlayer is ranked at a disappoint #17 or so...

Way back I also PowerDVD (upto v12 ultra). However, it is a big program (almost 130mb download..), it takes some time to load, there is no such thing as simple "Rightclick->Play.." I had to launch it first and then click-click-click... browse ... click..., so I stopped upgrading and using it.

@fritzi93 - thanks for your comments, I'll try to get MPC-HC going first.


I installed x64, maybe I should use the 32bit version, don't know..

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[El Heggunte]

It is disappointing to see that MPC-HC hasn't a dedicated forum.

Not a forum, just a thread, FWIW:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=166689

[hello_hello]

Thank you both. It is disappointing to see that MPC-HC hasn't a dedicated forum.

There's a MPC-HC dedicated thread in the doom9 forum, but that's as close as it gets to an official forum (the MPC-HC developers hang out there).

@hello_hello
as for: "(options/internal filters/video decoder)" - I am not familiar with such things.

Re your screenshot showing the list of available hardware decoders, for an ATI card I think it's only DXVA2. Rather than disabling it completely though (leave DXVA2 selected), unchecking the DVD box below should stop hardware decoding being used for DVD video. If not, try unchecking the mpeg2 checkbox also. If you change a setting there, close and re-open MPC-HC completely before testing.

For the record, the way it works is the list of file types under Source Filters tells MPC-HC to use it's internal splitter for each one checked (the splitter separates the video and audio on playback) while the Transform Filter list tells MPC-HC whether or not to use it's internal decoders for each audio and video type. The internal splitter/decoders being LAV, which can be configured by clicking on the appropriate buttons.

When something is deselected in the Source Filter or Transform filter list, MPC-HC will use any appropriate directshow filter you may have installed such as Haali media splitter or ffdshow or any filters/codec supplied with Windows. If none are found I think it just goes back to using it's internal filters. Unless you have a specific need you can usually just let MPC-HC use whatever internal filters are selected by default, which I think is pretty much everything except for Windows Media files.

[Krispy Kritter]

I don't recall the specifics, but when there are issues with hardware decoding, the easiest test is to disable it and let the cpu do the work.

When I was having issues, it was because the hardware decoding I was trying to use wasn't supported by my gpu chipset.

EDIT: there is an MPC-HC advanced setup thread over at the AVS forums in the HTPC board with several experts who frequent the board/thread.