Why use Vdub as a frameserver

[ReDlxn72]

the majority of dvd back up's i make, are in spanish or french and not to dis vdub or anything i just was wondering why use Vdub as a frameserver. Aside from adding subtitles do i really need to resize the clip..?? or if i did a regular english encode would it improve the qual if i used vdub to resize

[ReDlxn72]

i think this was moved not sure why

[poopyhead]

subtitles are a pretty important reason...especially doing foreign films and you wanna preserve the original language

[mikewg]

VirtualDub is so much more than just "resizing the clip". First of all, you can use it to capture video in pure AVI format. Not compressed DivX format, I'm talking the good stuff. Then I can use VirtualDub to Frameserve that AVI file to TMPGEnc, and make a VCD file SOOOO much crisper and clearer than capturing directly to the MPG file. VirtualDub can resize my clip, it can edit the brightness of the video, it can allow me to trim an AVI file frame by frame without having to resave an entire new AVI file, just Frameserve it to TMPGEnc. VirtualDub is by far one of my favorite programs of all time.

[Mirror_Image]

VDub has some wonderful filters (both built-in and 3rd-party) and other features that can do things that TMPGenc does not. You have vdub do what it does well, then frameserve to tmpgenc so that tmpgenc can do what it does well - the best of both worlds.

[Akai Rounin]

Forget How, WHY Frameserve...?

poopyhead: Yeah, I agree. Most of what I'll be working with is Japanese video that will need English subtitles. If I can't get an English Dub, I'd at least like to have subtitles. Plus, the verbal inflection of the Japanese voice actors always seems a bit more appropriate in any given situation shown in anime.

mikewg: Hey, I'm glad this subject was available, because this was one of my questions as well. The tutorials seem rather adamant about frame serving, but none are all that clear as to exactyl WHY it should be done.

I have learned through experimentation that the closer your source is to the original work, the better the final result, even with MPEG1. So video captured from a VCR will never be better than VCR quality. VCR quality video isn't really appropriate for encoding at MPEG2, unless you just want it in that format as a final result. No one wants to keep uncompressed AVI on their hard drive forever. But it is not necessarily smart to use DivX AVI as your primary editing source.

If I understand your post correctly, you are saying that by frameserving a VOB or uncompressed AVI from VirtualDub you a) don't lose a copy generation and b) don't have to use compressed video as a source in TMPGEnc.

Just yesterday I downloaded the Turboneko Berserk videos 'Phemt' and 'Snow' from Anime Music Videos and I was amazed by their clarity in MPEG1. Absolutely nothing I've captured from television or videotape rivals it. So I know there can be really good results from using the frameserving technique.

I was wondering though if you could point me to a specific frameserving guide that explains every little detail as to not just how, but also why the technique described is the best. I am currently going through Ermac's Guide to All Things Video, which I also found at Anime Music Videos. Can you recommend anything else?

Mirror_Image: That is a SUPERB quote in your signature. The point you make about Filters is good too. I have only recently begun to investigate the features that VirtualDub's Filters can help. It seems that Filters help to keep one from reinventing the wheel.

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