Using PC as full screen TV, what program do i use?

[Rick1984]

Ok, so what i need to do is use the FULL screen of my PC as a duplicate of my TV. i've tried Debut, but it cuts off both left and right sides ( Pillarbox), so its only 4:3 and not 16:9, even if you set it to "stretch to widescreen" it is set to windowbox. I've also tried VLC, yes it uses the full screen but it lags by about 2 seconds, it needs to be milliseconds difference like Debut, not seconds.

What can i use that wont letterbox, pillarbox or windowbox and will use the full screen of my PC like VLC but without the lag?

If you need to know why, do ask, but its just going to take some explaining..

Thanks for any help Rick

[DB83]

So do explain.

Are you sending the signal from your tv to the PC or even from a set-top box ? If you are there will always be a slight delay. Does not affect your ability to record if that is what you want to do.

[Rick1984]

Ok, so this is what im wanting to achieve ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBuRsdqJIBs

But what ive done is bought a HDMI splitter coming out form my Sky HD box, one going to my TV, the other going into a HDMI to AV CVBS 3 RCA Video Composite Converter then profigold composite video cable ( audio not needed ) to KWorld USB capture device..

Thats where im stuck on what program to use as the LED's need to use the FULL PC screen as thats what the LED's are processing from using the following program..

Prismatik software to USB out of the PC to LED's that are fixed to the back of the TV..

The results are something like this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLLoOMHKgC4

The only difference is, i wont have the LED's so close to the edge of my TV like this guy has.

Does this make sense?

[Rick1984]

Or to put it simply, a program that will view in full screen, using the whole of the PC screen without letterboxing etc etc like VLC media player but without lag.. Thats all i need

[DB83]

Ok. But I suggest that the lag is created by the combination of the hdmi splitter, the composite converter and a capture device.

Like I already said, there will always be a delay from a capture device. But maybe the guy who you are trying to emulate is using a straight hdmi capture. Little or no delay then. And since it is a digital signal rather than your digital to analog and back to digital you would get full screen.

[Rick1984]

The lag has nothing to do with the HDMI to composite as Debut does not create lag. Debut just has boxing with miliseconds of lag which is acceptable. All i need is a mixture of both VLC with the full screen Debut does not produce, but with no lag time that VLC produces.

[DB83]

Fine.

Since you know better........

[gonca]

The lag has nothing to do with the HDMI to composite as Debut does not create lag. Debut just has boxing with miliseconds of lag which is acceptable. All i need is a mixture of both VLC with the full screen Debut does not produce, but with no lag time that VLC produces.

Which is it, no lag or some lag

[Noahtuck]

Fine.

Since you know better........

Don't ya just love how they know what the problem is NOT but don't know what the problem IS ?!?!
LOL!!

[hello_hello]

Well if the Debut capture software displays the video with virtually no lag, how would using VLC cause the hdmi splitter, composite converter and a capture device to create more of a lag? The cache setting for VLC appears to be 300ms, so that's probably some of it.
Give MPC-HC a try.

Is this the Debut software to which you refer? http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/
If so, have you tried the option under "Flexible Video Output Settings"? (about halfway down the page)

Mind you..... that ambient light thing..... people inflict innocent TVs and monitors with it on purpose??
Each to their own, I guess.

[Rick1984]

Ok, its not that I know better, I’m only covering the facts
NCH Debut Video Capture as referred to by hello_hello only creates milliseconds of lag which is acceptable but has boxing when i need to use the full screen all the way to the edge. VLC Player creates a few seconds of lag which is unacceptable. So i can not use either of them. All I’m looking for is software that wont box or lag.

The fact NCH Debut Video Capture creates hardly any lag, indicates it has nothing to do with the HDMI to composite, it is VLC Player.. For some reason. So its not that i know better, I’m just covering the facts.

Thankyou, hello_hello. I will try MPC-HC. Philips TV's come already fit with Ambi-Light. I’ve had this Philips TV for about 5 years and Ambi-Light makes film viewing so much more entertaining. I've bought a new Samsung TV. Since Philips have Patented there Ambi-Light, no other company can copy what they are doing, so DIY kits are available.

[roma_turok]

Try XBMC with mce remote

[Rick1984]

Well if the Debut capture software displays the video with virtually no lag, how would using VLC cause the hdmi splitter, composite converter and a capture device to create more of a lag? The cache setting for VLC appears to be 300ms, so that's probably some of it.
Give MPC-HC a try.

Is this the Debut software to which you refer? http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/
If so, have you tried the option under "Flexible Video Output Settings"? (about halfway down the page)

Mind you..... that ambient light thing..... people inflict innocent TVs and monitors with it on purpose??
Each to their own, I guess.

Thankyou Media Player Classic works PERFECTLY !! Allowing a wide range of picture Pan&Scan options with no noticeable lag. Cheers people.

[Rick1984]

Try XBMC with mce remote

I will also try this as a backup, thanks for your help