record hd tv signal with m780 avermedia only get one audio

[godai]

hi i just wanna ask somebody use this card and able to capture more of one audio channel of tv signals?

i just get only one audio. i need all streams
i try contact support of avermedia , totally uselless

[jagabo]

What kind of cable(s) are you using for audio?

[godai]

its a atsc capture, with antenna

[usually_quiet]

its a atsc capture, with antenna

I have never heard of a situation where a digital TV tuner card did anything other than provide the MPEG-2 transport stream as is, with all its audio streams intact.

How are you determining the number of audio streams that you should have available? Often there is only one English audio stream for US TV programming, with no Descriptive Video Service for the blind or Spanish language audio. I'm not sure if more than one language is required for Canadian DTV signals.

What software are you using to find out how many audio streams are present in the transport stream supplied by your TV card.?

[godai]

but it not.

i have one 1600 hvr hauppauge , and it records both audios. when it available.

tv detect (sony bravia hdtv)and let you know when alternative audio its available.

with this card not is ''as is'' its only give one audio after recording. despite signal comes with two or more. several air channels have more of one audio stream.

for this card im using avermediacenter im able to switch audio but not record both.

[usually_quiet]

but it not.

i have one 1600 hvr hauppauge , and it records both audios. when it available.

tv detect (sony bravia hdtv)and let you know when alternative audio its available.

with this card not is ''as is'' its only give one audio after recording. despite signal comes with two or more. several air channels have more of one audio stream.

for this card im using avermediacenter im able to switch audio but not record both.

It could be a problem specific to Aver Media Center. Try using different PVR software for digital broadcasts. NextPVR is probably the easiest free software to set up for digital broadcasts, but will be more work to set up than Aver Media Center. It works with many different ATSC TV tuner cards.

[jagabo]

with this card not is ''as is'' its only give one audio after recording. despite signal comes with two or more. several air channels have more of one audio stream.

Are you sure you're using the ATSC tuner (over the air digital broadcast), not the NTSC/cable tuner (over the air or cable TV analog broadcast)?

[godai]

very sure, i have years using tv cards. i know what im saying.

sorry for say it but i think i know more about it that you

you can find out, many air channels comes with 2 audios

ntsc cable tuner not comes with two audios i guess.


i attach one file check your self.
qubo channel use dual audio , and 2 cc , 1 for english and 3 for spanish.

you need use vlc, potplayer or gom for dual audio. for cc vlc

[Wolfen]

Why don't you just Mediainfo the file and post it or if you want to be sure use a transport stream analyzer, not all broadcasters include dual audio, it's whatever they want to broadcast and save bandwidth (money).

[godai]

you right not all broadcasters include dual audio, few 3-5 only , point of discussion its first post

[Wolfen]

Well, I suggest you try VirtualDub and see if it records all the audio streams, if it does then obviously it's not the card but the capture software.

[godai]

how i can use tuner mode with virtualdub? i can do it with analog and composite but i never know how with atsc


probably its software i dont know, meanwhile wintv get full streams with both audios when them available, avermediacenter not

[usually_quiet]

very sure, i have years using tv cards. i know what im saying.

sorry for say it but i think i know more about it that you

you can find out, many air channels comes with 2 audios

ntsc cable tuner not comes with two audios i guess.


i attach one file check your self.
qubo channel use dual audio , and 2 cc , 1 for english and 3 for spanish.

you need use vlc, potplayer or gom for dual audio. for cc vlc

Did you try your avermedia m780 card with any other PVR software yet to rule out the possibility that this is a software issue?

[godai]

i try with powercinema and i get same thing

[usually_quiet]

i try with powercinema and i get same thing

Then maybe the m780 card is just a bit odd and you should get something else if you can't live with its quirks.

[godai]

i just try with arcsoft total media 3.0 and i get both audios, but in xp, meanwhile win 8 64bits total media cant make work tuner

[jagabo]

win 8 64bits total media cant make work tuner

Nothing unusual about that.

[usually_quiet]

I assumed that you had tested powercinema with another TV card to make sure it was capable of capturing multiple audio streams, but I guess that wasn't the case. Since totalmedia 3 works, then the PVR software used definitely determines whether or not all audio channels will be recorded when using the M780.

ArcSoft TotalMedia Extreme 3 is listed as Windows 8 compatible, but Windows 8 compatible 64-bit drivers are needed too. The M780 is a discontinued model, and the most recent 64-bit drivers available from AverMedia are for Windows 7. Windows 7 drivers tend to work for Windows 8, but not always.

[godai]

m780 works on win8 but with avermediacenter , with total media not extreme only total media i cant get work tuner, but composite svideo of cards works perfectly.

powercinema not detect any card on x64 win8, but with xp detects all my tv cards, i will need did a test with it for other cards, i just test with this card, with powercinema you are able to switch audios when you are watching but not record (m780 case)


for m780 case, avermedicenter, powercinema not are able to record both audios, only total media 3.0 its able to do it on xp

for win8 64bit only software that works with this card is avermediacenter.

[usually_quiet]

My mistake. ArcsoftTotal Media Extreme 3 is a completely different product from ArcsoftTotal Media 3. ArcsoftTotal Media 3 dates from 2007, and like a lot of other older video software, ArcsoftTotal Media 3 is never going to work on a Windows 8 system.

[godai]

it works but not tv tuner part.

[usually_quiet]

it works but not tv tuner part.

It obviously isn't fully functional and never will be. Arcsoft is not going to patch six-year old discontinued software to make it fully functional on Windows 8.

[godai]

yeap but you are saying one post before ''never work'' thats not true, it works but only one part of it.

[usually_quiet]

yeap but you are saying one post before ''never work'' thats not true, it works but only one part of it.

Partially functional software doesn't qualify as working software in my book, particularly when the the feature that doesn't work is the feature that is needed.

...and by the way, not providing much information about your system, particularly the OS, in the initial post, puts anyone trying to help you at a disadvantage. The current version of NextPVR has some issues with Windows 8 as well. I don't know if all of them have a solution available, or how soon a Windows 8 compatible version of NextPVR will be released.

If you need something right now that will provide all audio streams, I suggest you download trials of Windows 8 compatible commercial PVR and capture software to see what will work with the M780, or upgrade to Windows 8 Professional and buy Windows Media Center for $10. I'm done here.

[godai]

yeap but you are saying one post before ''never work'' thats not true, it works but only one part of it.

Partially functional software doesn't qualify as working software in my book, particularly when the the feature that doesn't work is the feature that is needed.

...and by the way, not providing much information about your system, particularly the OS, in the initial post, puts anyone trying to help you at a disadvantage. The current version of NextPVR has some issues with Windows 8 as well. I don't know if all of them have a solution available, or how soon a Windows 8 compatible version of NextPVR will be released.

If you need something right now that will provide all audio streams, I suggest you download trials of Windows 8 compatible commercial PVR and capture software to see what will work with the M780, or upgrade to Windows 8 Professional and buy Windows Media Center for $10. I'm done here.

thank you

[godai]

finally i get something work with win8 64 , sage tv , it eat all, probably you know it.

thanks!

[usually_quiet]

finally i get something work with win8 64 , sage tv , it eat all, probably you know it.

thanks!

You'll be able to use the trial for 27 days. However, if I understand the situation correctly, after that you will need to already be a Sage TV customer to keep using it. Since Google bought Sage TV in 2011, Sage TV has not been selling new licenses, only supporting their existing customers.

[godai]

i will try with beyond tv then

[usually_quiet]

J River Media Center is more likely to work well. It is updated more frequently than Beyond TV.

[godai]

thanks for help i will give a try