Is it Possible to Rip a DVD if you don't have a DVD-Rom?

[mrebman]

Is it possible to Rip a DVD if you do not have a DVD-Rom player in your computer. I have only a CD-Rom & a CD-Burner in my Pentium 4 1.6, Can I still rip a DVD or do I need to buy a DVD-Rom & replace my CD-Rom with it?

P.S. - I have a DVD Player in my Living Room but not in my Computer.

-Mike-

[videoguy79]

In a word, no. DVD and CD may look the same, but they really are two different discs. A single-sided, single-layer DVD can hold 4.7GB (up to 17GB for dual layer, dual-side), and is read with a 650nm laser, whereas an 80 minute CD can only hold 700MB and is read with a 740nm laser. A DVD-ROM drive can read CD's, but a CD-ROM cannot read DVD's. Get a DVD-ROM drive if you wish to do so. . try E-bay or www.pricewatch.com. You probably could find something in the 30-40 dollar range.

[TwIZzlEr]

ROFLMAO ah ha... ah heh. thanks I needed that.

[poopyhead]

i can't believe how many times i've heard this question pop up.....

they call it a "DVD"-ROM for a reason...... and they mass-produced it for a reason....and people are buying it for a reason (in addition to their regular CD-ROM)

however, if you insist on not buying a DVD-ROM, you can try to cap the DVD through your standalone DVD player, but a good quality cap card will prolly cost you more than a DVD-ROM nowadays

[Mirror_Image]

Excerpted from

http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq03.html#S3-49

Subject: [3-49-1] I heard of software that copies DVDs with a CD recorder!
(2002/01/26)

I'm guessing you've also heard of ways to get rich by sending money to other people, legal ways to get your bad credit history erased, and drug-free side-effect-free low-cost super cures made from all natural ingredients on distant tropical islands.

They're all nonsense. I can't help you if you believe in the above, but I can speak to copying DVDs with a CD recorder. Here's a piece from a message that was spammed at me (spelling and grammer errors left uncorrected):


COPY ANY DVD MOVIE

With our revolutionary software you can copy virtually any DVD Movie
using your existing equiptment! Conventional DVD copying
equiptment can cost thousands of $$$

Our revolutionary software cost less than the price of 2 DVD Movies!

If you go to the web site, it goes on to say:

Learn How To Burn DVD's onto Regular CD-R Discs and watch your new
movies on Any DVD Player, not just the computer DVD.
[...]
No DVD Drive Required!!!

Another, possibly unrelated, site says:

With detailed, easy to follow, step-by-step instructions, you can
BURN your own DVD Video using nothing more than our software and
your CD-R.
[...]
o No DVD Burner Required
o Superior Reproduction Quality

It has a link for their "frequently asked questions" document, but you have to give them your e-mail address to get it. Any company that refuses to give you information until you submit to their spam list is best avoided.
Let's start with the facts:


You can't read a DVD in a CD-ROM drive. DVD requires a laser at a different wavelength; the disc has a different physical format; the disc has a different logical format. A firmware update is not going to make this work, so don't expect that installing new software is going to help.
You can't put a full DVD on a CD-R disc. DVD movies are typically around 8GB, which is roughly 11x as much as you can put on a CD-R.
Many DVD players can't read CD-R discs. This is because of the different laser wavelength. DVD player manufacturers have found several ways around this, but many players just can't handle CD-R.
You can't easily duplicate the blocks with the security keys. They live outside the filesystem area. The only way to get the MPEG video off in a playable format is to strip the CSS encryption, and software that can do that is illegal to write, sell, or use in the USA (DMCA law).
Products like "DVD Wizard" and "DVD-Copy 2.1" cannot possibly do all that they claim. The closest they could get would be to transcode the video into a different format. This requires ripping the MPEG-2 video off the DVD using a DVD-ROM drive, stripping the encryption, re-encoding the video in MPEG-1, and writing it to CD-R as a VideoCD. You will be going from 720x480 video recorded at up to 10.08Mbits/sec down to 352x200 video recorded at 1.5Mbits/sec. Instead of Dolby 5.1 you will have low bit-rate stereo. On an 80 minute disc, you can store about 80 minutes of MPEG-1 video, so nearly all movies will require two or more discs.
This software will let you duplicate a movie that could be played back in computers or *some* DVD players -- not all DVD players support CD-R media, and not all will play VideoCD -- but at roughly VHS quality, and without any of the features that make DVDs special. Most notably, you will lose all of the menus, audio options, and special features. You will not be burning "DVD Video", and in some parts of the world (most notably the USA) you will be breaking the law even if the copy is for personal use.

Software that does this sort of thing can be found, for free, on various sites on the Internet. (Because of the legal issues, it isn't always available in one place for long.) If you really want low-quality MPEG editions, save your money and search the web for DVD copiers or converters.

[bbb]

You can buy a capture card like the DC10+ which ignores dvdplayer's copyprotection signal. Use a S-Video cable to feed video from the dvd player to the DC10+ card and use an RCA to stereo miniplug to feed the audio into the DC10+.

The results are pretty darn nice. Also, this makes ripping movies with subtitles a breeze.

The DC10+ can be purchased for <$70 if they are still available. Look around Pricegrabber.com or Ebay or Office Depot. Be sure to pick up a 7200rpm 40+ gig hard drive for the video capture.

[AlienZombie]

To anyone with this question: Just buy a dvd-rom if you want be able to rip dvd's! They're not that expensive. I got the Lite-On LTD-163 DVD-ROM (VERY good dvd player/ripper) for around only $60 like 6 months ago. This is not an expensive investment, especially when compared to the likes of a new graphics card and such.

[zzyzzx]

The DC10+ can be purchased for <$70 if they are still available. Look around Pricegrabber.com or Ebay or Office Depot.

I had heard that the DC10+ could be had for much less if it can be found at an Office Depot cleareance table.

[Cheeky Wee]

Pioneer DVD drives rock and you can download the region free firmware for most of them. Worth checking out if your prospective drive can easily play other region disks!

[Greg12]

n DVD-ROM's r now like CD-ROM"s so if u have space problems, u can just replace ur CD-ROM

[ember]

So then, it's not possible to rip a DVD with a CD-ROM? Is that what you are saying? Please don't lie this time..

[poopyhead]

ember, think about it..they made a DVD-ROM for a reason...if you could play DVDs in CD-ROMs...all those DVD-ROM manufacturers would be outta business

[vhelp]

mrebman,

...yeah, i'm w/ bbb. you can get a DC10+ for a lot less <$70.
And yes, it ignores the MACROvision crap. And, does a fair job of
capping from just about anything (MACROvision free)
This card captures in MJPEC avi format, but tmpg and vdub will read
it w/ NO problem. You'll have to adjust the colors on this though.
Or, you can try an ATI-TV Wonder and capture to AVI.


QUESTIONS:
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* what is your source(S) ??? (dvd/vhs/satalete etc)

PROBLEMS/PROS/CONS:
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* huffy avi (pending on your system spec) 720x480 captures may be too slow

RECOMMENDATIONS:
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* to not capture w/ 352x240 res.
* to capture via Huffy avi w/ 352x480 ..will give ya best quality for
an later vcd, or better yet, svcd encode.
* capturing from VHS source and encoding to vcd is best, vs. svcd from
VHS source - wont be able to tell the difference, unless your VHS source
is GIGO.

SOLUTIONS:
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* use huffy codec via avi_io or vdub.
* get a DC10+ or an ATI-TV Wonder, both R under $70 bucks!
* once you do the above, READ the << FAQ >> It has all the answers to your
upcoming questions.



-vhelp

[MOVIEGEEK]

I'll tell you how if you send me $50(US) first.