Having problems with program "cuttermaran"

[jerecho]

I am trying to cut up a .m2v file with Cuttermaran. I first demuxed my mpeg (movie clip) file using Project-X_0.91.0
I have the part of the video cut and am now ready to save my new video. I choose cut video and audio and it seems to save the video just fine but I get errors when it tries to save the audio part of it. Here is a sceen shot of my error.





Here is the log file I get every time I try to mux it all back together.


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Mplex version 2.2.4 (2005/08/28)
Mplex is part of MJpegTools package version 1.8
ported from Linux to .NET by Elmue (2006/12/18)
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Command: 'o' Option: "C:\Users\\Desktop\samplevideo.mpg"
Command: 'i' Option: "C:\Users\\Desktop\samplevideo.mpv"
Command: 'i' Option: "C:\Users\\Desktop\samplevideo.ac3"
Command: 'f' Option: "9"
File C:\Users\Jamie\Desktop\samplevideo.mpv looks like an MPEG Video stream.
File C:\Users\Jamie\Desktop\samplevideo.ac3 looks like an AC3 Audio stream.
Video stream 0: profile 9 selected - ignoring non-standard options!
Found 1 audio streams and 1 video streams
Selecting generic DVD output profile (PROVISIONAL)
Multiplexing video program stream!
Scanning Video stream e0 (C:\Users\\Desktop\samplevideo.mpv)
VIDEO STREAM: e0
Frame width : 1920
Frame height : 1080
Aspect ratio : 16:9 display
Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec
Bit rate : 20541600 bits/sec
Vbv buffer size : 1222656 bytes
CSPF : 0
Scanning AC3 Audio stream 00 (C:\Users\\Desktop\samplevideo.ac3)
AC3 frame size = 1536
AC3 AUDIO STREAM:
Bit rate : 384 kbit/sec
Frequency : 48000 Hz
SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:
Rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate: 21365 kBit/sec
Target data rate specified: 10080 kBit/sec
WARNING: Target data rate lower than computed requirement!
WARNING: N.b. a 20% or so discrepancy in variable bit-rate
WARNING: streams is common and harmless provided no time-outs will occur
Run-in Sectors = 89 Video delay = 13019, Audio delay = 16022
New sequence commences...
Video e0: buf= 237568 frame=000000 sector=00000000
Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000000 sector=00000000
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=935058 required(DTS)=934940
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 184940 frame=000307 sector=00001541
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 11971 frame=000322 sector=00000246
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=978944 required(DTS)=967973
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000318 sector=00001834
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000332 sector=00000253
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1022829 required(DTS)=985991
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000324 sector=00002130
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000337 sector=00000257
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1066715 required(DTS)=1007012
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000331 sector=00002424
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000345 sector=00000263
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1110601 required(DTS)=1034039
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000340 sector=00002717
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000354 sector=00000270
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1154486 required(DTS)=1064069
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000350 sector=00003009
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000364 sector=00000278
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1198372 required(DTS)=1100105
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000362 sector=00003299
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000377 sector=00000288
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1242258 required(DTS)=1136141
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000374 sector=00003590
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000389 sector=00000297
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1286144 required(DTS)=1178183
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000388 sector=00003879
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000404 sector=00000308
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1330029 required(DTS)=1217222
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000401 sector=00004168
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000418 sector=00000319
WARNING: Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=1373915 required(DTS)=1259264
WARNING: Video e0: buf= 235543 frame=000415 sector=00004457
WARNING: Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000433 sector=00000330
ERROR: Too many frame drops -exiting

[usually_quiet]

Is this a recording from an over-the-air source? If so, I know from personal experience that Cuttermaran has problems coping with with transmission errors in the video and audio streams. Such errors are very common, and the only program I have tried for editing which can successfully cope with them is VideoReDo.

[jerecho]

The original file was a .tivo file. I then used direct show dump to get it into an unprotected .mpg (movie clip) file.

[usually_quiet]

The original file was a .tivo file. I then used direct show dump to get it into an unprotected .mpg (movie clip) file.

...and is the TiVo recording from an antenna or from digital cable? Either way it could be a transmission error. Digital cable tends to have fewer of them than over-the-air, but they still occur.

[jerecho]

The original file was a .tivo file. I then used direct show dump to get it into an unprotected .mpg (movie clip) file.

...and is the TiVo recording from an antenna or from digital cable? Either way it could be a transmission error. Digital cable tends to have fewer of them than over-the-air, but they still occur.

The file is from digital cable (comcast) over cable cards in the tivo. I was able to use "MPEG video wizard dvd" and it worked great!
Only down side is that it costs $100.00 after the trial period. F that. I really need to find some freeware

[usually_quiet]

No transmission erros then. Cuttermaran just couldn't mux the HD file.

I have tried nearly all the freeware MPEG-2 editors as well a number of payware MPEG-2 editors. Cuttermaran is the only freeware MPEG-2 editor which is frame accurate and capable of smart rendering, but as you discovered it is not a good editor for HDTV recordings. However, all the editors I tried, including Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD, had problems dealing with transmission errors, except for VideoReDo.

VideoReDo Plus is frame-accurate, uses smart rendering and can compensate for transmission errors. It has been worth every penny of the $50 I paid for it. The user interface looks like it was designed by Fisher-Price, but it works. $100 will get you VideoReDo TV Suite H.264 with a prettier user interface which supposedly works with TIVO files from TiVo to Go, edits H.254 video files, and authors DVDs.

[jerecho]

I got videoReDo H.264 and it works awesome except for one thing. When I play back my cut up show I get a weird green screen for maybe 10 or 15 frames inbetween every spot that a commercial was removed. Have you ever encountered this? Any ideas on how to go about fixing it?
Thanks again for all your suggestions.

[usually_quiet]

I got videoReDo H.264 and it works awesome except for one thing. When I play back my cut up show I get a weird green screen for maybe 10 or 15 frames inbetween every spot that a commercial was removed. Have you ever encountered this? Any ideas on how to go about fixing it?
Thanks again for all your suggestions.

I use VideoReDo Plus to trim unwanted bits from the beginning and end of files and always remove commercials manually. I never saw the problem you describe. Did you remove commercials manually or use the auto detect and removal feature?

[Edit] I didn't realize it earlier, but VideoReDo Plus apparently can import TIVO files as well. http://www.videoredo.com/en/SpecificationsPlus.htm

If that is true and you don't need to edit H.264 files or author DVDs, you can use it and save $50

[jerecho]

The version of VideoRedo I got is "VideoReDo TVSuite version 4.20.7.629
It does open my .tivo files which saves me a step and is great. The way that I edited out the commercials was to just open the tivo file and then pick the start and stops of commercials and then used the cut selection. When I was going through editing it the first time it kept giving me errors saying that it could not seek forward when I would click the "forward 2 minutes" button. It told me to do a "quick stream fix". I did that and I did not get the original error anymore.

[usually_quiet]

The version of VideoRedo I got is "VideoReDo TVSuite version 4.20.7.629
It does open my .tivo files which saves me a step and is great. The way that I edited out the commercials was to just open the tivo file and then pick the start and stops of commercials and then used the cut selection. When I was going through editing it the first time it kept giving me errors saying that it could not seek forward when I would click the "forward 2 minutes" button. It told me to do a "quick stream fix". I did that and I did not get the original error anymore.

Do you mean that running Quick Stream Fix on your TIVO file before editing eliminated the problem of green frames at the cut points?

I do use Quick Stream Fix frequently. Quick Stream Fix helps when editing captures from a digital tuner of some kind because the frames are sometimes out of sequence, or there are other errors in the stream. Maybe that is why I don't recall seeing the green frames.

[jerecho]

The version of VideoRedo I got is "VideoReDo TVSuite version 4.20.7.629
It does open my .tivo files which saves me a step and is great. The way that I edited out the commercials was to just open the tivo file and then pick the start and stops of commercials and then used the cut selection. When I was going through editing it the first time it kept giving me errors saying that it could not seek forward when I would click the "forward 2 minutes" button. It told me to do a "quick stream fix". I did that and I did not get the original error anymore.

Do you mean that running Quick Stream Fix on your TIVO file before editing eliminated the problem of green frames at the cut points?

I do use Quick Stream Fix frequently. Quick Stream Fix helps when editing captures from a digital tuner of some kind because the frames are sometimes out of sequence, or there are other errors in the stream. Maybe that is why I don't recall seeing the green frames.

I haven't tried not seeing the green bars without doing a quickstream fix yet. I have tried to save it as different formats but still get the same result. I'm gonna play around with it again tomorrow and if I figure out a fix or what caused it I'll post it.

Do you have any good results with the "ad-detective scan"?

(EDIT)
It appears that as long as I start my cut on a frame that still is displaying some sort of video and end my cut the same way it pretty much deletes the green frames. I wanted to have a more smooth transisition into and out of where the commercials should be though. I was hoping to set the start and stop points on frames that were solid black.

I chopped up the video again but this time I used direct show dump on my tivo file before editing it, but got the same result (green frames)

[usually_quiet]

I haven't tried not seeing the green bars without doing a quickstream fix yet. I have tried to save it as different formats but still get the same result. I'm gonna play around with it again tomorrow and if I figure out a fix or what caused it I'll post it.

Do you have any good results with the "ad-detective scan"?

(EDIT)
It appears that as long as I start my cut on a frame that still is displaying some sort of video and end my cut the same way it pretty much deletes the green frames. I wanted to have a more smooth transisition into and out of where the commercials should be though. I was hoping to set the start and stop points on frames that were solid black.

I chopped up the video again but this time I used direct show dump on my tivo file before editing it, but got the same result (green frames)

I haven't been able to re-create your problem with green frames, but I have different hardware and software. I don't have a TiVo or CableCARD tuner. I record using a TV tuner card or a DVD recorder. I have VideoReDo Plus, not VideoReDo TVSuite H.264. VideoReDo TVSuite H.264 may be the problem. There are some reports similar to yours in VideoReDo's forums from people using VideoReDo TVSuite H.264. Download the trial for VideoReDo Plus and see what happens when you edit a TIVO file.

I tried ad-detective scan, but didn't find it to be accurate enough. I always edit recordings manually.

[jerecho]

I got VideoReDo Plus and I got rid of the green frames!!! Works great with my .tivo files as well. Thank you so much for you help and advice. I finally got exactly what I needed!

Thanks again